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...On YOUNG MEN,but on OLD MEN it looks rediculous!
I have seen many Men in their fifties with long greying ponytails and even worn down past the shoulders and it makes them look horrible.
a Man that age looks much more respectable with a closely cropped head of hair, such as a CREWCUT!
now on the other hand, I think Younger Men should ware their hair long, especially Teens and the twentie somethings, but OLD MEN forget it.
More young guys would probably wear theirs longer, IF MORE OLD TIMERS would get realistic HAIRCUTS!
afterall youth doesn't want to emulate their GRANDPARENTS!
In your opinion! I totally disagree. I think some of the more magnificent manes are the silver ones, both on men and women.
I do agree that long hair looks better on younger people. It's also ok on older people as long as it's not too long. My dad and my granfather both have long hair but keep them in ponytails.
Nancy, if you are going to dis' older Longhairs, then at least spell your words correctly. That should be ridiculous.
As to your opinion about what looks good on a man being dependant upon his age, well, it is just that; your opinion. I do not think Longhair is for everyone. I do not think shorthair is for everyone. I do think that everyone should be allowed to decide for themselves. I also think we should at least show each other a basic level of respect and allow each other the freedom to be ourselves. After all, if I can accept someone who prefers to wear orange polyester double knit pants to work then you could probably learn to accept a graying Longhair.
Madoc
Msg #119029 in *JOBS* Created on 08/01/90 at 07:03:00
To: Kelly Martin, From: Jack Decker
Subject: Re: Neckties an occupational h
KM> just a final note before ending this string:
KM> 1)...if you want to post an opinion, please expect someone to
KM> reply to it. not to expect this is quite weird, as this is the
KM> basic idea behind bbs's and nets THE EXCHANGING OF IDEAS.
This time I did not post an "opinion." I posted a factual news article that
I saw in my local newspaper (okay, granted, there may have been some "opinion"
in that, but at least it wasn't MY opinion).
KM> 2)...when I was younger I felt much as you do. now I am older and
KM> a bit wiser, and you too will change as you mature. So, all I
KM> was doing was tossing out a few comments about the REAL WORLD
KM> from my experience. take it or leave it. but understand, this
KM> issue will be looked upon from quite a differant angle as you
KM> age. if this were not true, than the majority of folk from my
KM> generation would all still be wearing long hair, driving vw
KM> vans, and living alternative lifestyles. o.k.? kelly
Not o.k. (as in, no, I don't agree). You make the all too common mistake of
thinking that everyone else thinks the same way that you do. As you have matured,
you should have learned that this is seldom the case. Individuals tend to think
INDIVIDUALLY. It may surprise you to learn that I am 38 years old, so I'm not
a teenager anymore by any stretch of the imagination. But some of us don't
lose ALL of our ideals as we grow older. Again, this is where people differ...
some folks take the attitude that if everyone else is willing to compromise
what they believe, they might as well do it, too. But there ARE others who
feel that if a principle was worth standing up for at 18, it's still worth standing
up for at 38, unless you get new information that causes you to reevaluate the
principle.
In any case, you should not presume to tell people what they will do as they
mature... that is VERY presumptuous on your part, and will not cause you to
be thought highly of by people of any age. If there is one universal truth
that everyone should realize (and most will outwardly agree with this statement,
but inwardly people just don't want to believe this), it is: THE REST OF THE
WORLD DOES NOT THINK AS YOU DO. No two people have the same temprament, intensity
of feeling, life experiences, or any of several other factors that might cause
them to think differently than you do. In fact, one of the most common reasons
for employer dissatisfaction with an employee (in my opinion) is that the employer
has certain mental expectations of the employee but fails to communicate them
to the employee, thinking that "any reasonably intelligent person (that is,
anyone who thinks as I do!) would know what I want here." When the employee
does not perform as expected (because his thinking patterns are different than
that of his employer), the employer blames the employee rather than understanding
that it is necessary to communicate your expectations to your employee (and
to understand that in some cases, your employee may have his own thinking patterns
that make it difficult for him to conform to your expectations, and that does
not necessarily make him a bad person, although it may make him incompatible
with your firm).
One other observation... people who have compromised many of their principles
seem to feel the need to denigrate those who are still holding fast to theirs.
Just like the alcoholic who can't stand to be around folks who have gone "on
the wagon"... it makes them look bad by comparison, so they seem to feel the
need to make nasty cracks about such folks. By the same token, people who tend
to be conformists for some reason just can't stand to leave a non-conformist
alone (even when the non-conformity is not hurting anyone else). I remember
having a high school teacher in the '60's who did not smoke (not common in his
generation) and who was amazed at the number of people who put him down because
he did not pass out cigars when his first child was born (even though he couldn't
stand the smelly things). But I would really hate to be in a world where EVERYONE
thought and acted just alike, wouldn't you? Sure would be boring...
Jack
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Nancy, I agree with most of your comments concerning long hair on young men, but just can't agree when it comes to your opinion on long haired older men.
Have you ever seen photos of Charles Keating? This silver fox is a striking example of one long haired older man.
Here is a link to some pictures of him (I hope).
http://idt.net/~maestro1/photo.htm
Photo Gallery from the Charles Keating & Victoria Wyndham Tribute Page
who cares what you think......who are you anyway.........everybody should just go throught life doing what makes them happy......it dont matter what they look like just be yourself
Photo Gallery from the Charles Keating & Victoria Wyndham Tribute Page
Nancy, Nancy, Nancy.....some of us old guys have worn our hair short for fifty years and now have the chance to let it grow out...I don't much care how you think I look...I enjoy the long hair so much...it's a joy.
Women my age can't seem to keep from playing with it, which is an advantage for this single guy. The kids here in Arizona have bald heads, so they aren't copying me.
Check out Donald Southerland in Space Cowboys for a white pony tail. Looks great!
In my work as a counselor kids seem to be open to me because of the long hair, I guess they figure I'm an old hippie :-)
Better to look like an old hippie than an old yuppie! And that indeed is the choice.
Bill
Wrong Nancy! On the contrary it would be great if all men, young and old had long hair, it would go a long way to closing up the generation gap.
For example, Kenny Wayne Shepherd has long hair and so does his dad who also is his manager. ditto for Gil whose father has long hair and is very supportive of him.
Both these young guys are successful musicians and I'm sure their longhaired fathers have played no small part in their success without them turning out to be cynical, angry, suicidal young men acting out wild, drugged and drunken lives which I believe arises from conflict between parents and children.
I'm 46 now and I'm not getting my hair cut at 50.
Charles
Thanks for your comments Viking.
In fact, I feel that if my parents didn't object so much to me having long hair and just let me get on with it, I'd most probably have gone a lot further in life than I have so far, instead of being caught up expending so much energy rebelling which adversely affected my studies.
Charles
I am not sure about old men, but young folk like me, 100% right!
Nancy
You have all the right not to like long hairs on older men but you should simply say that you don't like it instead of judging them like you are "...it makes them look horrible."
I don't know what age you are but one thing is sure is that we are all going in that direction and souner or later we are becoming old. I just wish you that no one come to judge you because you don't have the same look as you did when you were younger...
Tolerance is the key to a best living for all of us.
Jean
Nancy,
I belong to this "old ones" who like long hairs for themselves. And now I should cut it all off why it looks rediculous? I think I am accepted in my firm even from the short shaved younger ones. Noone has ever argued there against my long(er) hair (now about 20 cm long, I am 47). The longer hair gives a good feeling for me, I feel more complete as with short shaved locks. And I am highly motivated to let it grow longer and longer for the next years.
I think your argumentation level is the same as to give pressure for "older ladies" to cut it all off. There has been destroyed so much lovely growing hair for nothing. I really miss it.
wolfgang
I had my hair long first. You cut yours short. I'll leave my great looking hair long thankyou.
Aragorn
Nancy, would you also argue that only young women should wear their hair long and that all older women should wear the obligatory short curly helmet hair? Hair length and style is a personal choice and preference, you have the right to prefer short hair on men of a certain age, but I, for one, value diversity and respect the choices of all men and women. Let's have a little tolerance and respect for one another. Peace - mark
Long hair is a preference just like your favorite food...and who cares if an older man wants to have his hair long if it makes him happy!! Poor dude...anyway...i think alot of older men would look great with long hair...i think it's great if they growing their hair despite what society thinks...many other cultures don't discourage men from long hair (native american, asian etc)...so why do we?