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Not going by Bruin anymore. Please, call me Cicero.

Before recently, my last post was around late 2005 or early 2006. As you mentioned, we must have just missed each other.

I don't even recognize this site anymore with the changes. Time does that. Very different now.

Been keeping my hair at waist-length for some years now. Head hair has recently become thinner, so I decided to grow out my facial hair to compensate. Sitting on my hair got old after awhile, too. It was a goal of mine to see what my terminal length was… I achieved that goal and moved on.

I'm happy to say that I defied the odds and the adversity/conflict that goes along with trying to defy the odds.

I'll try to check back later.

Cicero

Hi Bruin,

Welcome back to our new version of the MLHH, and as you’ve no doubt noticed, it has a much more modern look now.  Jesus Forain did a good portion of the work bringing it up to modem standards, and it’s still a work in progress.

I’ve been around the MLHH seemingly forever, with my first posts from somewhere around late 2006 to early 2007, can’t remember exactly when.  I must have just missed seeing you around, though, since you mentioned that it’s been around 20 years since you posted.

That’s awesome that you achieved ankle length hair, and that is a massive accomplishment.  Even getting past waist length is very difficult, knee length is even rarer, and ankle length is almost unheard of.  I still have a good head of hair at 72, but my terminal length is still short of my waist.

I was curious if you’ve been able to keep your hair that long through the years?

David

Hi Jin, that's a great photo of you for its intended purpose.I see nothing unprofessional about it at all.Your well dressed, well groomed, and present yourself very well. Your blessed with the type of hair you have as you can almost wear it in any style for work and it would look proper.Good luck on the position your going fo mand do keep us posted my friend.Cheers.

     Mârk aka Hairball

Greetings OAD,

    Very sorry to hear that you are getting push back about your longhair at your current job. Like David had mentioned I had no issues having long hair during my career as an HVAC service tech but I did have to take precautions to protect it out in the field which usually meant wearing a baseball cap to keep it in place and getting caught in things.However I've been retired almost two years now so it really is a non issue anymore.

   As far as a new career for you, that would be hair friendly, I'd imagine IT work, the cosmetics industry, or possibly even sales would be some options.However whatever you choose likely will require training if you've never done the work before which isn't a biggie as people change careers all the time during their earning years.I look forward to learning whatever you decide to embark on my friend.Maybe others will chime in with other suggestions.Keep us posted and by all means take care of your hair! Cheers.

     Märk aka Hairball

Hi OAD,

It took me a little while to figure out the basis of your new username, but your hair is a dead giveaway, along with the name of your YouTube channel, Onward and Downward, which is an awesome site.  You’ve done a great job putting your channel together.  I have seen your posts on Reddit as well.

Your hair is stunning, in perfect condition, and I understand your total dedication to long hair.  I feel the same way about mine, and both of us agree that long hair is in our souls.

I am truly sorry, though, to hear that you have been subject to such a hostile and abusive culture in your workplace, and getting away from that place, to protect your health and sanity, is an excellent decision on your part. I had no idea that things were that awful.

I have to apologize for not having any useful suggestions for a job that would be a good fit for you, other than the ones you mentioned,  that would respect you as a person, as well as respect your desire to keep your long hair.  However, I should mention that I’ve been retired for 15-20 years now, in my early 70s, but my job was  as a scientist, and had no issues with my long hair at the time, although it was a lot shorter than it is now.  Hopefully, someone else in our MLHH community will have some good ideas that would work for you.

My best wishes to  you in the future.

David

Hello everyone! As the title shows, I am actually leaving my former job! It has been a very long time coming as the work culture is very abusive. I have always loved hair and haircare, and it is a subject I am deeply passionate about. Besides becoming a barber or hairstylist, what other careers do you guys know about that has to do with hair? I figured I might as well marry this passion area with a new career! Thanks!

Also, in case it was buried, here is how long my hair is now

Hi George’s,

Thank you for posting this, and I had no idea that you had achieved waist length hair in the past.  That’s always been my goal, but despite having decent thickness for my age, of 72, I’m a few inches short of waist length.

I should mention that a lot of YouTube videos, if actually watched directly on YouTube, have a closed captioning option, and from there, you can tell YouTube to automatically translate into English.  I do that quite often when watching foreign language videos.  However, not all videos enable captioning, so it doesn’t work for all of them.  I need to check out your video on YouTube to see if it’s possible for yours.

David

This report was on the French TV network “Radio-Canada”, (French only), and is a short documentary about living with Asperger's Syndrome. Even if you do not understand, you can see my waist length hair, back then (Old age made it about 4 inches shorter now), and it was dark. The video is good quality for a VHS transfer. You will see old computers, and my PDA (A Psion Series 5mx), and an HP48 calculator (The best made by HP along with the HP48g series. 

 

I did just a copy n paste of the old MLHH, I know that these sections needs to be rewritten. I'm working on fixing some minors bugs and performance issues.

Hi Jin,

Your photo is good and your look is awesome with you long hair and suit. You seems to have Asian origins, I find that Asian guys have the most beautiful hair, they are thick and straight.

I like wearing suits, it's beautiful, I like this style. Where I live (Bordeaux, France) it's rare to see a guy wearing a suit, but you see guys with long hair everywhere!

Hi Jin,

Your hair looks amazing, it looks healthy, thick, and is perfect on you.  And you look great in the suit, too. I love the color - you pull the whole thing off very well!

Philip

My goal right now is to get it shoulder-length all the way around.   I think that's probably my ideal length, but I've had it down to my mid-back in the past and I might aim for that length again once I get to my shoulders.  

Yeah, I am not sure about the eggs. I stopped using shampoo or conditioner years ago even with my very short hair - I just water-washed my hair every day - but now that I am growing it longer I feel like it occasionally needs something too keep it clean and conditioned, and I am a bit ambivalent about going back to shampoos or conditioners, so yeah, it's an interesting, if not a bit strange, experiment :D 

Thanks Hairball!   As my hair gets longer (5-millionths of a mm longer every second, according to my calculations) I am feeling happier and happier with it.  I am just so excited to be growing my hair long again - should have done it sooner!  Thank you for the encouragement!

Philip

Thank you, David!   The waiting is a test of patience, but I am starting to feel like a bit of a longhair, which is nice.  That feeling will only increase with every week and month that passes.  

I usually keep my beard quite short but I am finding that it looks okay bit longer with my longer hair.  Makes me look a little shaggy right now, but I kind of like that look, especially outside of work.  On that note, I think most of my co-workers have gotten used to the idea now that I am growing my hair out.  They are used to seeing me with ½" long hair, but I think thus far their reaction has been either encouraging or at least neutral.  I work at a library so it's a low-risk environment for personal expression and hair growing :)  

The weekly egg wash seems like a pretty good reset for my hair, it leaves it clean and conditioned.  Still, it's a bit strange, so I'll just think of it as an experiment I am doing while my hair grows.  

Thanks again for your words of encouragement, I'll post some new updates in a couple/few weeks.  

Philip

Hi Jin,

Your photo came through perfectly this time, and your hair looks outstanding, shiny and thick.  That’s an excellent photo for you to use for professional purposes.

It’s clear that you’ve kept a fantastic head of hair through the years!

David

Hi Jesus,

It seems that a number of people are having difficulty figuring out how to post photos.  Although you have excellent instructions below, it might be useful to have a separate link on the left hand side, with detailed instructions from A to Z.

Also, although I know that it will take time to update all of the FAQs, there is one item, the very first, actually, where it talks about registration, and no need to register, and in fact, the inability to register, but that was only with the old site.  At the very least, this should be revised to reflect the new site, that creating an account is the preferred option now, and also enables one to edit their own posts if necessary.

David

Hi,

I've inserted my photo in “bmp” file format under the “Upload images” section.  I am trying again here in this reply.

Jin

He hasn't uploaded the image, there is noting on the server. Even if the image wasn't inserted, it should be present on the server.

Hi Jesus,

Your hair looks good, and that’s a fantastic length, a bit longer than mine.

I find that washing mine every 5 days is best for me.  Mine is fairly dry, but I still find that going more than 5 days is a bit too much.

David

Hi Jim,

It’s great to see that you have found our new version of the MLHH.

Unfortunately, I cannot see your photo.  I know that posting photos is different than it used to be, and that  Jesus Forain indicated that he had posted instructions on how to post them. When I posted mine earlier, I had to upload the photos first, then the second, important thing to do is to “insert image”, at time it should turn green, then you can hit the “send” button to complete your post.

David

Hi Mãrk,

I wash my hair weekly, usually at weekend because it's when I work at renovation of my house. I wash once or twice the weekend. Now I do plasterboard joints and sanding, it's the wrost thing with lot of dust.

I didn't show often this pendant, the head with ponytail was under my clothes.

Hi Jesus,

      I always liked my own hair after freshly washed and dried. However after ca day or so it sort of get weighed down and flat looking especially if in the summer when hot/humid.Normally I wash my own hair every there day but in the summer its daily. You hair looks great after being washed/ dried so do you dialy wash as well or space it out over several days? Also I notice a different pendant from your usual pony tailed one but looks cool either way.Cheers.

     Mârk aka Hairball

Hi all,

I thinking of running for a representative post in my company, which in itself, has a rather inclusive culture.  I usually do not have any issues with anyone (no odd looks, passing questions or awkward tones) even when I wear my long hair down, on a single braid, double-braids or a bun.

I am inclined to use this picture for the election, which I don't think it's your “usual” election photo, and wonder if it lacks professionalism.

Any opinion(s) will be appreciated.

Thanks :)

Jin

Hi Cicero,

Cheers to you, welcome to the new MLHH, and thank you for encouraging all of us.

I look forward to seeing your progress as well!

David

Hi Cicero,

Thank you for your kind words!

David

Keep it long and going on.

Awesome hair, dude!

Do you have pictures of your long hair too? 

Nope, never tried it.

What's your length goal?

My hair made it to ankle-length without using eggs.

Good experiment.

Hi Philip,

     Your hair is looking great for where you stand at this juncture but patience is key as growing your hair just takes time. You just have to stay motivated and resist any urges to make rash decisions if you start to feel your not exactly happy with where you are at a given moment. You'll get there and when you do the journey will have been well worth it my friend.Cheers.

     Mârk aka Hairball

Hey Ares,

     Wow, as David mentioned I don't ever recall this sort of problem mentioned here in all the years I've used this board.Sounds like you got sound advice from both David and Jesus.Be for warned once you actually start getting more length its vital to practice safety with longer hair especially if your job requires using certain machinery that could snag long hair.When I did HVAC field work my hair was always secured and under a baseball cap to avoid such disasters and especially outdoors in the wind is always an issue.However we longhair know how to survive and protect our manes.Cheers.

    Mârk aka Hairball

Hi Ares,

I hope you learnt the lesson! 

You still have very short hair so, it's not a big loss, it shouldn't be noticeable within one month. Take care of your hair and be careful with your hair when it becomes longer, be also careful when you use tools or other dangerous things. The best is to tie your hair.

You should read On being a longhair, written by Bill, a MLHH member, it's literally the “user manual” of long hair for guys.

Hi Ares,

My, this is a new one.  Since I’ve never had gum in my hair, I had no idea that it was so difficult to remove.  I’m sure that you tried to get rid of it the normal way, under the shower, with shampoo.  I’m wondering whether slightly hotter water than usual would have softened up the gum so that it could be removed without resorting to scissors.

Hopefully, someone else will have tips as to how to remove gum from hair, in case it happens to anyone else.  I’m sorry that this happened to you, though.

I edited this post to include tips on removing gum from hair without scissors, using this link.  https://www.healthline.com/health/how-to-get-gum-out-of-hair#peanut-butter-and-vegetable-oils

I found this through a Google search, and peanut butter is mentioned commonly, along with any type of edible oil.

David

So… I was chewing gum last night, and I woke up with it in my hair.  yikes 

My friend took the photo. ( I had to cut out the gum  with ✂️ scissors)

Surprised to see this board is still around. I used to frequent it about twenty years ago. My hair hit terminal length at my ankles. Keep growing, but beware of the people you encounter.

My username was Bruin, for the UCLA Bruins, unaware that Bruin also means bear, in some circles, and a bear is also a gay man.

Again, be careful of the people who admire you for how you look.

Hi Philip, 

You’re actually doing very well, and at least some parts of your bangs are getting below your eyes now, so soon you will be able to either part in the middle, or slightly to the side, your choice, just one further step on the journey.  Since hair only grows ½ inch per month on average, patience is definitely a virtue, but it will get there.  The main thing is that you have great hair for growing long, it’s good and full, and you have straight hair, the easiest type to grow long.

Your beard is progressing nicely as well.

Sorry, I’ve never tried egg washing, just plain old shampoo and conditioner for me, but maybe someone else can chip in and add their thoughts.

I look forward to your future updates!

David

Good morning everyone,

It's been about 2 weeks since my last post, thought I'd make an update.  Still on the path, alternating between feeling like I am making some progress and feeling like it's taking forever :)   Not much growth since last time, but this is my hair freshly washed.  Just as an experiment I've been trying egg-washing my hair once per week.  It sounds strange, but it seems to work pretty well for me.  Anyone else ever tried it? 

 Hope everyone has a great week!

Philip

Hi Matt,

   It's been great working with Jesus these past few months getting the new mlhh set up to eventually launch.He did the bulk of the work as I was the go between with the host server since I hold the account with them. Years ago there was a donation link but we never really pushed the issue so I just took care of the finances myself when I took over the finances. If we were to restart donations I'd have to ask Jesus to set that up again as I don't even recall how monies were transferred back then since I wasn't treasurer at that time.On another note I love how the mlhh is ad free so no annoying pop ups. Frankly it makes a nicer experience for the user in my opinion.Thank you for mentioning it.Cheers my friend.

     Mârk aka Hairball

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Hi Mârk

Ah OK that's simpler too!!   Glad you and Jesus Forain were able to keep the site alive. Not sure if it's been thought of but I wonder if there is a way if people were inclined to donate a small amount to assist in maintaining if they liked and how that may work, without it being off-putting or feeling like an obligation to help keep it going into the future if it was needed? There must have been initial server costs and some power costs + your time of course, although I'm guessing it's a labor of love. Just a thought if it was needed.  Glad to hear your hair is still long and look forward to seeing more posts from people new and old.

Cheers,

Matt.

Very interesting, I remember this show although didn't actually watch it a lot at the time, might have to try and find some ties similar to these designs.

Looks like your pic didn't work but I remember one you posted a few months back and it looked great!

Thanks OAD appreciated,  your hair is awesome I hope you keep growing it, I remember seeing a youtube video some years ago where you described how someone made you cut it, I'm not sure of the context but I was really sorry and actually upset that happened and I'm glad to hear it's looking so great again now!

Great to know thanks!!!!  🧔🏻‍♀️

Hi Jesus,

     I read your Q and A with David regarding posting videos on the mlhh and kind of get it about what you were saying regarding the server we use for the site.I imagine if we were to process videos a dedicated server would be needed which I assume would include more cost over and above what it is now.I have to figure out what we have now as I type this reply I see all these symbols above my text which I have no idea what they are for until I try them.The videos you posted played well as I had no issues viewing them.As for those ponytail holders he mentioned possibly still having some but actually I have a couple similar but don't recall where I purchased them.Cheers

      Mârk aka Hairball

Thank you very much 

Hugs from Montréal. 

Here is a picture from today in a local book store.

Hi Jesus,

Thanks for confirming, and your explanation makes sense that one cannot link directly to one’s device.  I do have a few hair videos on my YouTube channel, though, and may try, as an experiment, posting them here as a test in the near future.

I don’t use any of the other social media sites like FB, Instagram, or Twitter.  I only started using Reddit recently.

David

Hi DavidN

However, one thing that strikes me most about your post is that it seems that we can now post videos on the new version of the MLHH.  I don’t think we ever had direct videos on the old site, apart from giving the link to the video on YouTube.  They could never be directly viewed on the MLHH, rather, one had to click on a link to watch them on YouTube.

Welcome in the future! Just copy and paste URL of the video in the text editor. It's compatible with main video websites such as YouTube, Dailymotion, TikTok and Facebook. Facebook was the worst to integrate because they have multiple and complex URL patterns for videos compared to others services like YouTube where you have only one URL pattern to process.

I was wondering whether this applies directly to videos on one’s device, without having to go through YouTube?  I know that photos are accessed through one’s device, and it’s certainly a huge improvement from the old MLHH if videos could be downloaded the same way.  I have a few videos on my iPad, and it’s cool that one could post a video if one wanted to.

Hosting videos on the MLHH server would be a problem because for video files you need a lot of resources: lot of disk space, high bandwidth and a powerful CPU to process video. You have to use YouTube or any another video sharing service to host videos and then integrate the video in you message.

Hi Jesus,

Thank you for sharing these videos that give so much information about the hair styles of the actor in the Highlander series, and how he went about them.

However, one thing that strikes me most about your post is that it seems that we can now post videos on the new version of the MLHH.  I don’t think we ever had direct videos on the old site, apart from giving the link to the video on YouTube.  They could never be directly viewed on the MLHH, rather, one had to click on a link to watch them on YouTube.

I was wondering whether this applies directly to videos on one’s device, without having to go through YouTube?  I know that photos are accessed through one’s device, and it’s certainly a huge improvement from the old MLHH if videos could be downloaded the same way.  I have a few videos on my iPad, and it’s cool that one could post a video if one wanted to.

David