Hi Philip,
Congratulations on achieving you first full year of growing out your hair! As you can see growing your hair out is a timely process so its important to be very thoughtful if in the future anyone thinks of cutting it short again hence the two week rule.Takes so long to grow long but minutes to cut if off.So with that said your doing great in journey as it'll be amazing when you achieve you ultimate goal.Keep us updated as you progress further my friend.Cheers!
Mârk aka Hairball
Hi Philip,
Your journey continues to go very well, and you have made excellent progress for one year of growing. You’re right on track to where you should be, since you started from very short hair.
You have two definite things in your favour. First of all, you appear to have a perfect hairline as far as I can tell, with no thinning at the temples, a good thing. The second thing is that your hair is straight, which is the easiest type to grow long, and straight hair like yours appears to grow the fastest, since no length is hidden in curls that makes curly hair appear to grow more slowly.
Keep up the good work with the growing!
David


Hi everyone,
October marks my 1-year hair growth journey! Here are a couple photos to make the progress. I’m about ⅓ to my original goal I think, which is below shoulders.
Hi,
We finally did the Aérotrain enthusiasts meeting which was cancelled this summer due to the extreme heat weave this summer. Today the weather is cloudy and a little cold. I don't sleep at the hotel, I left home this morning and go back this night, a 4 hours journey on each way.
I took the photo I took each time I went here. I used my phone instead of my camera because I hadn't time, I have to follow the group.

Hi Mark,
Each year I took 3 weeks holidays in March and 3 weeks in October just for the fun fair.
Your very dressed up for this activity so are there others that dress up there as well?
No, I had just left work and as I said I like wearing suits. I wear suits almost every day but for the fair I have my “jesus forain” sweet.

Hi Jesus,
Nice, three weeks of vacation sounds about right! In all the years I worked I don't recall ever taking a vacation longer than two weeks so that gives you the opportunity to really get a nice reset. However nowadays I'm on a perpetual vacation as a retiree and to be honest I don't miss the grind at all.
Your very dressed up for this activity so are there others that dress up there as well? Makes it look like your one of the owners there.Have a blast and post pics and videos when you can.Cheers!
Mârk aka Hairball
Hi Jesus,
Enjoy your vacation! It looks as though you’re off to a great start and having lots of fun. Great photo!
David
Hi guys,
Me at the fun fair which has open today. I'm on holidays for 3 weeks until the fun fair ends.

Hi David,
I wasn't aware what the electrical system in Canada utilized but what you said makes sense being we are neighboring countries both in North America. As far as Mexico and Central America I have no idea. Maybe should as AI LOL. Also begs the question as what do they have in South America. Anyway being you live in a fairly modern building I'd expect everything to be up to date.The screw in fuses however are perfectly safe which is why I never bothered to upgrade the panel.Only drawback is if you blow a fuse you have to have a replacement since its one and done if it blows.With that said “Safety First”! Cheers.
Mârk aka Hairball
Hi Mark and Jesus,
This is just a quick note to say that Canadian electrical systems are identical to the USA, with only my dryer, range, and heat pump on the 240 amp circuit, and everything else on 115. I live in a condo, built around 2006, so my electrical panel is more modern, with breakers. I did live in an older house earlier, with the screw in fuses, eventually replaced by a more modern system later, with breakers.
I assume that Mexico would be similar to the USA and Canada, since it’s also part of North America and is next to Texas in the USA, but I cannot say for sure.
David
Hi Jesus,
Thank you for your commentary of the electrical grid in your area.Here in the states, unless you have some sort of a mansion, residential homes are all single phase with all wall outlets being 115v unless its for an electric appliance where 240v is needed.I have natural gas so my stove/oven, water heater, and furnace are all fueled by gas.There obviously is an electrical circuit in all of these but its 115v.The only 240v appliance I have is my A/C condensing unit and that too is single phase.Three phase is normally exclusive to commercial/ industrial buildings for the most part.I'm sure there are exceptions but that's the norn here. I understand other countries do things differently such as you described in your area.On a side note my main electrical panel still utilizes screw in fuses as it dates back to the 1950s.When the day comes that I sell the house either the new owner will upgrade the panel to breakers or I'll have to do it. Likely the house will need a full renovation to bring it up to modern standards.It's still very functional but at this juncture I'm not investing that kind of money to do that work. Always fun shooting the breeze on these off topic subjects with you.Cheers.
Mârk aka Hairball
Hi David,
I think all of us long haired guys have bathroom cabinets filled with all kinds of miscellaneous products.
It's me! But I try to use them to avoid wasting. In a big supermarket in the women hair care section you can have hundreds of shampoo, conditioners and various stuff. I had tried some of them and it always promises wonders on the packaging!
I think that I have dry hair so, I use stuff for dry hair.
Hi Mark,
Also surprised at the voltage it runs at being 230 as here in the US a typical hair dryer runs at 115/120 volts
As an HVAC installer I thought you know that there is different mains voltage in other countries.
Science is one of my interest and I know well the history of electricity. In the US you have 3 wires which coming to your house: neutral and two phases. 120 Volts between neutral and phase and 240 Volts between two phases. This system was inherited from the early Edison DC system.
In France, every socket plug is 230 Volts 50Hz and the whole power grid is three phases from generator to your house.
You can have single phase, two wires coming to your house : the neutral and one phase, 230 Volts between the two wires.
For powers beyond 9KVA, three phases is mandatory. 4 wires coming to your house: the neutral and the 3 phases. 230 Volts between neutral and one phase and 400 Volts between phases. 3 phases is widely used in industry for powerful motors. My parents house is 3 phases, we need it for the heat pump and an air compressor; it can also be used by a water heater.
With three phases you have a little drawback because you have to balance loads (washing machine, oven …) between phases to avoid the main breaker tripped because the main breaker limits the max power you can use and the more power you wants, the higher your monthly subscription is. You can go up to 36KVA for a house.
Hi Mark,
First of all, I had to chuckle about how many different hair products you have used, or tried out, and I’m the same as you. I think all of us long haired guys have bathroom cabinets filled with all kinds of miscellaneous products.
I don’t like having soaking wet hair, and that’s why I gently towel dry before the leave in. That product from Farnier Fructis works well for me. I think my hair looks better, and the products work better, if I towel dry it first, just enough so that I can comb things in place beforehand, before air drying, and my hair looks much better afterwards. As for Argan oil, which I only use occasionally, I just use any old garden variety that I can pick up at my nearby Walmart. The only hair product that I’ve ever bought on Amazon is my boar bristle brush, which is excellent for bringing out this shine. This morning, while in Walmart, I picked up some coconut oil, and will try that soon to see how it works.
That’s great that your henna routine works so well for you, and that you’ve received compliments from women as well. That’s definitely a good thing!
David
Hi David,
I read with interest how you manage your hair since mine in very fine and straight probably just like yours. I do not use a hair dryer after washing so its always air dried but I don't towel dry it first so it takes much longer to dry completely. At times I find it hard to comb out wet using a wide tooth comb so I add leave in hydrating oil which helps a lot.Unfortunately I'm finding it more difficult to find the oil I use as I've been buying on Amazon being its the only way to get it since no store locally stocks the product.When you mentioned the Fructis product you use I took a look and found I actually have a bottle of that.Not sure why I bought it then either used it once or not at all as the bottle is still full.Product is always a crap shoot as what works for someone might not work for you.I have so much product laying around its crazy as I used to try everything to see what works best and if it didn't in the drawer it went. At least my henna routine has been a smashing success! Been doing it regularly since around 2011 and never tire of the color or the process of applying it.Its not uncommon to get lots of compliments on the color mainly from women.An occasional guy might give me a thumbs up but kinda rare.Anyway having long hair has its challenges but I'd never go short as I've been doing this for decades so I can't even remember what its like having short hair. Cheers.
Mârk aka Hairball
Hi Jesus,
Everyone’s hair texture is different, and a routine that works for me may not work for you. My hair is fine, but I have a lot of it, and I apply the leave in right after the shower, and after a gentle towel dry. I will sometimes also add a few drops of Argan oil and massage in, but mainly in the winter months for that. I comb gently, to get everything in place, then don’t touch anything until it is almost completely dry. I gently finger comb, then use a regular comb, and the hair is nice and smooth and there’s no tangles at all. I rarely get tangles, even after sleeping. The leave in that I use is Garnier Fructis Sleek and Shine, in a small green bottle, but I don’t know whether it’s available in France. It’s very reasonably priced.
As for my hair dryer, it isn’t even kept in my bathroom. I keep it in a drawer with other work supplies. I have used it to dry the water off of clock movements, after cleaning them. They need to be completely dry before oiling, and a hair dryer does a great job.
David
Hi Jesus,
I have to admit that's quite a malfunction but being it was modified, not sure how, its not the fault of the hair dryer. Also surprised at the voltage it runs at being 230 as here in the US a typical hair dryer runs at 115/120 volts.Personally I don't use hair dryers but I suppose if your hair is really long it certainly speeds up the process.Good thing you add conditioner after use and hopefully you stick with a low heat setting.Many many years ago I did use a hair dryer and actually still have it somewhere.Bought it back in the 1980s so likely made better that anything made today at the consumer level.Be safe with that thing! Cheers.
Mârk aka Hairball
Hi David,
If I let my hair air dry they are a little difficult to comb and they are not straight. If I use a hair dryer they are more straight and I find that the result is better. After drying, I apply a leave in conditioner that makes hair super soft and super easy to comb.
Hi Jesus,
That is downright scary. I never use a hair dryer for my hair, air dry only. However, a hair dryer can be useful at times around the house when a good source of hot air is needed.
I’m always wary when I buy something like this, especially for stuff sold on Amazon, since the quality control may not be as good as it should be. It’s better to stick with reliable and well known brands.
David

I found this on Reddit, this hair dryer was modified and becomes so hot that it melts! He use it for DIY.
I had a freaking experience once with a hair dryer: we used wrap the power cord around the hair dryer body and over time it gets damaged at the bottom of handle. While I was drying my hair, it suddenly doing sparks! When you realized that you have a 230 Volts live wire doing sparks over your head, it's not the most reassuring thing!
Hi Philip,
Sorry, but where is the tie?
It's cool that you wear this type of outfits but I prefer wearing more formal suits, I find them awesome.
Hi Philip,
This is a great look for you, and your hair is looking good as well, clearly long enough to part in the middle now. I don’t see any problems with your hairline either, so you should be “good to grow” for a lot longer.
David
Hi Jesus,
Looking good! I always liked the long hair and suit look and you pull it of really well. I also almost never wear a suit, but I am a fan of the long hair and sports coat/blazer look too, which is what I often wear to work like the image below. Of course my hair has a ways to go before it's truly “long” as yours is :)

Hi David,
I haven’t worn a suit in years, but I really should haul the suit out of the closet and just see what I’d look like with long hair and a suit.
I think you'll have an awesome look!
Of course we all appreciate your hard work and dedication in improving our site to where it is now, and it’s so much more modern than the old version
The site literally did a jump of 30 years into the future!
I spent the lasts weeks to understand new stuff about web development and now, the website have the latest technologies. We even have push notifications like social media!
Just be sure to have the latest version of your web browser.
Hi Mârk,
I just like wearing suits, I like this look and I found them comfortable. I'm dressed like that when I'm going to work.
I do have a wedding to attend in a couple weeks so that'll finally give me reason to dress up for that event.
I want to see that!
Hi Jesus,
You look great with long hair and a suit, the classic well dressed long haired look suits you well. I haven’t worn a suit in years, but I really should haul the suit out of the closet and just see what I’d look like with long hair and a suit.
Of course we all appreciate your hard work and dedication in improving our site to where it is now, and it’s so much more modern than the old version. Even loading photos, as well as videos, is so much easier than before. Then, the fact that we can search and find old “blasts from the past” posts is an added bonus.
Now, all we need are more participants to make this site even better. It’s hard to compete with social media these days, but if people discover us, I’m sure that they’d be happy to stay.
David
Hi Jesus,
Great to see you back after a bit of an absence, at least on the public side, but as always I always appreciate your work behind the scenes making the mlhh a much better experience for the end user.It's amazing to think where we were a year ago compared to today as its light years better. It has been odd why activity dropped off here during much of the summer so hopefully it picks up now that we are into fall and sprint towards the end of the year.
You look great in your suit and the long hair sure compliments it in my opinion.These days I don't have reason to dress up like that being retired but even when I was working I was a tradesman so dressed for those conditions. I do have a wedding to attend in a couple weeks so that'll finally give me reason to dress up for that event.
As always nice to see you post on the board and share whats going on with your life. Have a great week and look forward to future posts from you and others my friend.Cheers.
Mârk aka Hairball
Hi Jesus,
Thank you for your kind words. I definitely count my blessings to have the hair that I have at 73.
David
Hi David,
You have a great chance to have a such good hair quality for your age! It's long and it's the most important.

Hi,
I'm not active on the board for some time but I was very active in the backstages. I was working on improving and cleaning the code of the MLHH to make the site loading faster and more performant.
Hi Mark,
I had no idea that you were on Reddit as well as the others, but I assume that your presence there is low, since I’ve never seen you. Right now, I’m finding that Instagram is taking far too much of my time, so adding Facebook to the mix would be more than I could handle. My YouTube channel is small, and has roughly 150 subscribers. I’ve gotten a few more since I started posting hair videos as well as videos of my clocks.
Somehow, I knew that Jason would be a great dad, and I know that he was always enormously proud of his son. I have the utmost respect for him, and was honoured to be a guest at his wedding, and meet him on two other occasions as well. If you have the chance to chat with him, be sure to say hi to him from me.
Regarding the political climate, I am concerned that the USA is turning into a one party dictatorship. I hope that doesn’t happen, but the recent censorship of the press really concerns me. If things do change, though, and yes, miracles can happen, I’d be delighted to visit the USA once again. It would be a pleasure to arrange another meetup should that happen.
Thanks again, Mark, and always a pleasure chatting to you as well.
David
Hi David and Good Evening being its that time as I write this. Aside from Instagram, Reddfit, etc I try to limit my exposure on social media as it just gets to be too much bouncing around all those options so I stick with old reliable Facebook,mlhh and a couple others. In the last couple years Facebook has gotten better when they dialed back on the censorship that ran rampant during the height of the Covid years.Won't get into it here but I know of people who were kicked off Facebook for just expressing their opinions on hot button topics.
As for Jason he too has been on Facebook a long time and does post a lot of personal stuff which is how I know what's been going on with him over the years without even directly messaging him.All in all life has treated him well as his son advances through life towards adulthood.He's certainly an amazing father,husband, and person from all that I've seen posted.
As for the beard I feel that ship has sailed with me but did have fun with it by growing it out and coloring it with henna to match my hair.I'll maintain it to a degree but keeping it shorter as of now.
Finally I hear what your saying regarding traveling,especially over the border crossing into the US at this time in history.Without getting waaaaaaaay off topic here I truly believe we here in the USA are under “COG” or Continuity Of Government for a number of years.Most don't even know what that is.If I were to Google it I would have to scroll for awhile to find anything that came close to describing it.First hit that came close was on Encylopedia.com
Anyway winding down the evening here but I'm always honored to chat with you and others here my friend.Cheers.
Mârk aka hairball
Hi Philip,
Thank you for your kind words. I had no idea that you were on Reddit, that is cool to hear. I will keep an eye out for you, should you decide to post on FierceFlow, once your hair gets longer, and of course, fiercer. I’m delighted to be an inspiration!
David
Ah, impressive hair, as always! It's encouraging to see how thick and long your hair has stayed. Thanks for sharing, David! To answer a question you asked me a little while ago, these days the only social media I use (apart from Youtube) is Reddit, and I enjoy seeing your posts over there, too :) Thanks for the ongoing inspiration!!
Philip
Hi Mark,
It would be awesome if you have an Instagram account, and if you could find it, we could follow each other there, and connect. I’m slowly fitting in over there, after about 3 months, but it can be a rather intimidating place at times, even more so than Reddit, the other place where I post, mainly to the FierceFlow community.
That’s great that you’ve been in touch with Jason, and I hope that you can persuade him to update us here. He was always very supportive of me with my long hair, and the fact that I still have decent hair in my 70s. I’m glad to hear that he still has his long hair, and I assume that his son also has long hair.
I’m really interested in seeing how long a beard I’ll be able to grow, but I’m working on trying to achieve at least a 5 inch beard if I can. I’ve already invested in the usual beard care products, including beard shampoo, beard oil, beard cream, a comb, and a beard brush. I’m trying to achieve a full Gandalf look, lol.
It would be awesome to have a meet up again some day, and I’d love to do another road trip in the future. Sadly, that can’t be now, though, and although I shouldn’t get into politics, the current administration is extremely hostile to my country, and I just wouldn’t be comfortable visiting the way things are now, including the border crossing. About all I can say is that everyone in Canada will be watching the midterms carefully, hoping for a sign of change.
Thanks again, Mark,
David
Hi David,
I do remember you mentioning being a collector of old clocks in the past so I figured that's what was going on in the background but decided to have a little fun with it in my comments.LOL.It does seem quite loud but like you mentioned you get used to it and its just background noise at that point. It's great to have hobbies like that especially as we get older.Helps pass the time,literally in your case, but every piece has its own personality.
I think I may have an Instagram account so would have to look into that as if I do I never used it.Same with X, formally Twitter, as I may have created an account but never used it. I'm mainly on Facebook since I joined a few groups there and have utilized Marketplace to buy and sell things. I do know Jason is on Facebook and from what I recall he still has his long hair.Odd though why he's never returned to the new mlhh as he knew the changes were on the horizon. I really need to message him and see what's up and try and suggest he come back and post.I know Jesus sent him his login info once the new site went live.Maybe he missed that e mail which was sent months ago.
As for the beard I did the same thing your doing for awhile but being I wasn't good at shaping beards it was turning into a mountainman kinda look so I decided to shave it back awhile ago. Also it was such a mix of colors so I decided to henna it, while doing my hair, to make it all match up which actually worked quite well. So I still maintain some facial hair but its toned back quite a bit.
Hopefully the mlhh picks up more going into the fall season so we'll see.All we can do otherwise is try and promote it on other sites to like minded audiences. The site is so nice now it deserves more activity.Other than that hoping all is well with you as it would be cool to do another meetup even though I know that's difficult due to the distance.All the best my friend.Cheers.
Mârk aka Hairball
Hi Mark,
Thank you for your kind words, and I’ll give you an explanation of the noise in the background. I have a collection of about 30 clocks, and they can make quite a bit of noise when all ticking at once. I had to laugh at your “machine shop” comment. The siren like sound at the end is actually a tune that the large clock right behind me plays every hour. It’s called a trumpeter clock. They don’t bother me, and I get used to the sounds, and when I take my hearing aids out at night, they don’t keep me awake at all. I actually have a YouTube channel, Davids Clocks And Long Hair, which has a series of videos of most of the clocks in my collection, as well as about 10 long hair videos.
I’m quite pleased with my hair lately, maintaining decent density at age 73. Although I could never achieve waist length, at least it’s reasonably close to that.
Also, I’ve been concentrating on my beard more lately. It was always quite short, but over the last few months, I’ve been trying to grow and thicken it up more. There’s some older guys on Instagram who not only have great hair, but their beards are epic. I have no idea how far I’ll go, or even how long I’ll be able to grow it in the first place, but it’s an interesting new journey.
Like you, I wonder where all of our former members who had long hair in the past have gone. One person I really wonder about is Jason. He was totally dedicated to the long hair cause, and his son had long hair as well. I can’t even imagine him with short hair now. I’ve been unable to find him on Instagram, unless he has a private profile, and I’m not on Facebook, so if he’s on Facebook, I wouldn’t know it. Possibly you would know more, since I understand that you’re on Facebook.
Hopefully, activity will pick up here, but I’m not holding my breath for too long. This is a nice little site that feels like a little home, and I miss those old days when it was a beehive of activity.
David
Hi David,
Cool video but I have to admit all that noise in the background is quite distracting.Sounds like your running some sort of business,machine shop, with the end of the work day siren blaring! LOL Aside from that I agree with your first comment regarding the continued light activity of the mlhh.After all the fantastic work Jesus Forain had done to update the site it was great in the beginning when we had a nice flurry of activity going.After that it seemed to come to a screeching halt but maybe it has to do with the summer season and guys on vacations and such.Not sure what activity levels are on longhair sites attached to facebook and such as possibly they are low as well.Sadly I feel a lot of our older longtime members have moved on and possibly don't even sport longhair anymore. Hard to say but when you think of it I first got active here way back in 2005/2006 so like 20 years ago as a lot can happen in that time.
Now onto the main topic here and that's your hair! From when you first began your journey til now you've achieved a fantastic mane for a guy your age. I'm sure that's very rare but then I'm sure more are out there in the shadows that we never hear from.I'm grateful for the hair I have as I approach my mid 60s.I feel blessed that I was able to keep long hair from back in my 20s all the way to present day.Not once did I cut it short after all those decades.I was very concerned in the early years as my employers probably weren't crazy about it especially back in the 1980s when I first breaking into my field of HVAC.Anyway this has gotten long but I had a lot to say this morning.Keep doing what your doing David and thank you for stepping up to the plate and supporting the new mlhh.Cheers
Mârk aka Hairball
Hello everyone,
My apologies for seeming to monopolize the MLHH, but with so little activity, almost none, in fact, I’m just trying to post something to hopefully keep our community alive, and stop it from dying. It’s too bad that more guys can’t discover us, and keep us growing. However, with so many social media sites now having long hair sections for men, it’s hard to detract from them.
I recently made this video on YouTube, and posted it to Instagram as well, of me brushing my long hair. I recently switched to a new product, Purador ThintoThick, and am quite happy with it. My hair is quite thick for my age, and this video gives you some idea.
Thank you for reading!
David
Hi Mark,
Thank you! I kept the video very short, and admit that it wasn’t an “expert” hair banging video by any stretch of the imagination, and the whole thing was just intended to have a bit of fun with the mane. I’m quite pleased with my hair lately.
I have another video, showing me brushing my hair, that I posted both on YouTube as well as on my Instagram channel recently, and I will share that here in the near future. That video is about a minute long, and shows my hair’s thickness very well.
David
Hi David,
Truly a fun video but at least you took it easy on the headbanging as back in the day the guys would really twirl their heads hard and to the best of my knowledge no neck injuries were reported.LOL. As far as metal music I hit the 1980s /early 90s during my 20s so was truly immersed in that scene.However i did listen to bands from the 70s as well which I loved but being around during the metal scene prime years was a blessing to me. Still the 1980s was a great time to be young and into the music scene and the clubs.I even did a short stint as a roady for a local metal band.I'd love to do a headbanging video also but I have neck issues so I'll have to pass on that! Cheers!
Mârk aka Hairball
Hi Jesus,
That’s cool, and good job with the head banging! Actually, I’m not much into metal music either, but I just thought it’d be cool to have a little bit of fun with the mane. Thankfully, I have plenty of hair to head bang with as well.
I’m rather old fashioned, and prefer music from the sixties and early 70s, Beatles, Stones, Eagles, etc.
David
Hi Steve,
Is that a true photo of your long hair now? I know that you had posted some AI images before, and you said so, but if this is your actual hair now, it looks incredible. The thickness for a 72 year old is unbelievable, and you should have no problems growing it much longer.
David
Hi Vincent,
I have a preference for the ponytail, you looks more like a long hair guy.
I tried a head banging for the first time, it's incredibly hard to do!
I don't listen metal music, I like electronic music like techno and dance. Here it's a head banging with an Eurodance song from the 90s: Masterboy - Feel the heat of the night.
So at this point I still have long hair and it is my dream to let it keep growing!

Hi Steve,
You’re welcome, and I look forward to seeing more of your posts in the future. I was glad to see your posts on Reddit, but I assume that you’re not on Instagram, since a search for your name came up empty.
I did message you on Reddit, so please check your DM folder.
We need more older guys rocking the long hair.
David
Thank you for letting me join and be a part of this group. It is about time that we long haired men stick together. Statistically only about 2-3% of men have long hair.

I listened!