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I've never seen a longhaired driver on a UPS truck, unless the driver was a woman.
I was wondering if anyone here has ever worked for them or know someone who is currently or was employed by UPS.
I once worked for DHL and they didn't particularly like my hair, although if it'd been long enough for a pony at the time, they might've eased up on me.
An interesting point is that the guys in a Hawaiian DHL team in an old photo all have below-shoulder hair.
I can't say for sure, but I'd imagine ponytails wouldn't be a problem.
Hmm well I had a short stint at UPS as a pre-loader. Hair was certainly never an issue. My hair is more or less mid back length, and was worn in a ponytail to keep out of the way.
As far as drivers go, I cannot say. However, based upon my experiance with UPS, and having watched all their oriantation videos, nothing ever mentioned hair in any way.
I currently work at UPS as a Unloader and there is a policy for drivers hair. Sorry Bro but they like to have drivers with short hair, there into apparence witht there drivers. Also on facial hair too. I think your hair cant touch the top of your ears or something. Cant remember the details that well but I remember you gotta have short hair.
They are beyond nuts with this. I saw a TV report on UPS a few years ago and the reporter commented the report was originally assigned to a different reporter but UPS would not let him ride the truck, which was part of doing the report, because he had a beard!
Bill
What I can't believe is how companies can get away with this kind of dicrimination in this day and age and that's exactly what it is, discrimination. I mean, with all of the protection there is for minorities and all, we're all minorities as well the way I see it but we have no protection.
Agreed.
perhaps it's time for another type of civil rights movement to emerge.
check out my latest post above.
"Discrimination", at least where hair length is concerned, does not apply to private organizations. If a company states that it's employees must meet a certain dress code / uniform (in which hair length can be included in), then there's little to nothing that can be done. I worked in the oil and gas industry, and the company I worked for had a "no long hair" policy. Someone thought they'd have a "case" and sue the company for "discrimination" against his appearance. His lawyer told him otherwise. Since it was stated in the employee handbook, PRIOR TO HIS APPLICATION FOR THE JOB, he couldn't do anything about it, but either cut his hair, or find another employer who would take him for his hair length.
Saying that long haired people are a "minority", is somewhat manipulative. Discrimination would apply to someone who is denied a job because of his skin color, disability, nationality, or ANYTHING THAT IS OUT OF YOUR CONTROL THAT YOU CANNOT CHANGE. BUT, you can cut your hair, keep a "clean shaven" appearance, wear decent clothes / uniform. This IS all within your control.
I myself have longhair, so don't think I'm someone who is just "lurking" around wanting to start trouble. But if my company informed me I had to cut it (and it's WELL past shoulder length now), I'd cut it. I'd hate to give up $100,000 a year job on my failure to get a $6.00 haircut. But as they say, "different strokes for different folks."
Chris
Well, anti-longhair discrimination IS discrimination, but it may often not be unlawful discrimination. Also, such discrimination is often considered lawful even if the policy has been changed, so I'd take issue with the "employee handbook" comment. Just because an act is lawful does not necessarily mean it is "right", of course. Slavery and beating your wife were once lawful, but these acts were never right.
No, it's wholly true. To our knowledge there is no social group of substantial size where longhaired men constitute a majority of men. What we are not in many places is a legally-protected class. A legally protected class is protected whether its members are a minority or a majority, but of course, majorities generally hold the power so seldom need protection. Such cases arise though. You can't fire someone in San Francisco for being heterosexual, for example, even though heterosexuals are a majority. Sexual orientation distinctions in California are protected classes, be they minority ones or not.
This is also not so. Religion is wholly within one's power to change, and yet it is almost everywhere a protected class. Items get on the protected class list because either legislatures or judges have been convinced that the items are deepseated elements of one's identity. Long hair has been designated as such in a scattering of cases, but very few have been applied to the employment relationship.
But for some people more than money is at stake. One could give his religion up for six bucks less than that even, but many guys wouldn't.
Bill
Yeah, I applied for a job with ups this past Christmas and was told that the hair can't touch the shoulders. Ups discriminates.
