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The following link is to a thread in the UKHippy forum that I frequent. The administrator received a letter from a TV producer asking if any forum members would like to take part in a TV make over show, specifically men with long hair and facial hair because of the impact value of cutting it short. The link contains the letter and discussion around it.
I think that specifically the TV producer must have been searching for “hippy”, or any other groups that haven’t been transformed into sheep, to go on her show. It annoys me that people are willing to sell each other out in the name of money. I just wondered what the people of this board think about it.
http://www.ukhippy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5800
"You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile" - Borg Queen
WHAT A BUNCH OF HORRID, NONSENSICAL BOLLOX!!!
I won't be watching that show or certainly wouldn't want to be on it.
Hello Everyone,
Those makeover shows are **blip** propaganda for the establishment, to enforce **blip** sexual stereotypes by which the normal man has short hair, and the normal woman has longish hair.
Scenario: Two good looking longhairs appear, get buzzed, dressed in a suit, and voilà, before and after picture.... see how they look soooo normal with that haircut and chav clothes.
Watching that crap depresses me to death, and that is why I have no cable today.
It would be good to have people volunteer to appear as guests on these shows, and have a bunch of other supportive longhairs don short wigs and show up for the studio audience in nice clothing. As the time for the buzzing comes, male audiences take off the short wigs and throw them at the hosts :)
Invade the set, and destroy the clippers (or just throw them in the garbage, and "liberate" the guests and disrupt the show by saying "Long hair is beautiful!!!!".
These kinds of shows promote ideas like "Only a man with short hair can suceed in life by wearing the right brand of clothes that go with it."
These shows should be stopped, and even picketed. No more TRASH TV.
Have a nice day,
Georges in Montreal.
You are right, they think "a man should look like Ken" and "a woman should look like Barbie"
Aren't we too old to play "Ken and Barbie"?
I don't like both of them :)
Christian
Hey, my name is Ken, --- and i used to have a dance partner named Barb, too!!
- Ken in San Francisco
Agreed, Hans-Uwe. Our Ken is much more of a man (and far more handsome) than that tired old doll.
d.
You know Barbie is pretty much outdated in proportions, what with a 18 inch waist for 34 inch hips and a 38 inch bust. Overall she would be 5'10" in real size. Who in the world has 18 inch waist in adulthood without wearing something like a corset 24/7?
Barbie's going to be 50 years old (or more) soon, though she still looks pretty young doesn't she?
I personally don't see myself doing it. Wife has made subtle references to that lame show, "What Not To Wear," but even she realizes that the hosts have no business telling anybody how to dress, with some of their horrid outfits.
-m
I think a zero rating would be too high.
Justin, I agree entirely, it should get a negative rating.
Someone needs to do a new type of makeover show. This show would take about 5 years to produce. The opening scene would show a man with short hair, which is the "before" scene. Over the next 5 years show progress scenes as his hair gains length. The "after" scene would show that same man with beautiful, flowing, waist length hair. Now that is a makeover show I would enjoy watching. A caption at the end of the show would read: "Good things come to those who wait."
Absalom
Hey Absalom -
Great idea! I'ed even watch that show........and well worth the 5 year wait.
One thing I really can't understand is all the talk about these shows that upsets people. The solution is just so easy......merely don't bother to watch.
But your idea is the best yet. :-)
Justin~
Did anyone see the Dr Who episode where they took off a makeover show?
was that the one with the trinny and susannah bots? the only good tv they ever did!
Yes, and for the 'face off' they were going to take his face off and give him a dog's face, and then sew his legs to his chest. One of the robots had a built-in chainsaw!
Hi everybody,
in a post above, I have already used a term that could describe "makeovers" appropriately: We might call them "De-nutting Shows", because they derive sick satisfaction from denutting males that happen to sport and enjoy a style unlike the boring mainstream styles. - I have to say, I don't own a TV set, and I don't miss it!
I wonder whether there are any psychological studies about the feelings of children, adolescents, and young adults, who are pressured into unwanted hair cuts - I suspect that a feeling of being "castrated" is not uncommon at all. This could explain the venomousness of certain short-hairs: so many geldings just hate the very sight of real stallions who have the b@lls to grow their hair out! But then, there are sick men who glamorize or have a fetish about being "castrated". - Well, enough ranting for now...
Stay strong, everybody, and may you and your hair be at least as safe as your "nuts"...
Hans-Uwe
Just recently I saw one of these joke of a makeover shows, where one of the young, 'typical male' with a typical short haircut makeover team members harangued around NYC looking for potential male victims *cough* candidates for a makeover. He approached a dude who had great looking locks below that went below the shoulders. The guy declared himself from the show he was representing and asked him if hed like to do a makeover, and said they will cut his hair. The longhair dude declined and didnt want to have it cut. The ass kept insisting that if he did the makeover he'd have to get his hair cut.
Watching that made me proud and pissed off at the same time. Proud for the longhair standing his ground not caving into conformity. Pissed off that the guy kept insisting on him getting a haircut, but also that they broadcast garbage like this on I think it was TLC (the learning channel). A learning channel of all channels, where conformity and b.s. stereotypes are being reinforced. Way to go. TV nowadays is just getting worse. Crap clogging and stinking up the airwaves making less room for more quality television. But that seems to be an oxymoron nowadays. The regular networks now seem to manage to cancel really good shows while shoving more reality tv down our throats like Big Brother, Fear Factor, and Blind Date, all which I really hate with a passion.
Good post, JesseC, and I couldn't agree with you more. I can't stand to watch anything on TV these days. I don't even trust public television anymore -- everyone's got an agenda or formula, and everything you see on TV is so cookie-cutter and calculated, because oodles of money are being spent just to be on TV in the first place. My partner and I do have a television, but we don't have cable, satellite, or any of those other money-sinkholes that masquerade as "home entertainment." Our regular TV reception of local channels is spotty, at best, just because we don't care enough to make it better. The only things I ever watch are sports (yeah, I know, opiate of the masses -- although I think the real opiate of the masses is cell phones -- but that's another subject entirely) and the news. And I can't stand to even watch those half the time, because of the endless car and cell phone commercials, and other senseless (but highly profitable) drivel. Is it really any wonder we see nothing but people mindlessly yapping on cell phones whenever we take a drive?
OK, I'll stop ranting now, but I wish people would wake up and realize there's so much more to life than becoming a zombified, materialistic culture clone.
And just to end things on a positive note, I guess you could say I'm probably preaching to the converted here. I feel that you guys -- my fellow longhairs -- are the least likely to fall into that trap. I can't express enough my appreciation for being part of this community of delightful and fascinating individuals. In the short time I've been on this BB, I have come to feel very much at home here, and always look forward to reading what everyone has to say.
OK, I'm really stopping now. Thanks for reading. :-)
dino
I couldn't agree more!
I barely watch any T.V. myself and broadcast is enough for what I do watch.
- Oren
I totally agree,
I find it increasingly difficult to watch tv, I have basic cable and what drives me crazy our the local commercials for our cable service, it's quite maddening! But to get back to the subject of makeover shows, I've posted about this topic in the past and whenever I happen to come across one of these shows it just saddens and angers me how they try to manipulate the gentlemen into cutting his hair, they try convincing him that short hair is the way to go if you want to look good and you have family members who have come with him telling him he really needs to do this, it'll make them happy and he'll feel so much better about himself...
David(Who then turns the tv off in disgust)
Hello Everyone,
In my high school days, mandated reading was Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, which is getting close to our society today, except we do not burn books. I also bought the DVD of the same title by Francois Truffeault, and it was creepy at the time.
You will see "plasma" or LCD tv's all over the house, and really trashy shows in a society where reading is forbidden. One of the creepiest scenes was a guy with "long hair", I mean this is 1967, and he had a beatles cut, being accosted by police, and taken to the barber in front of a TV audience. The narrator says "This fellow here was arrested for boycotting the barbershops, (Camera focuses on guy on barber chair about to be chopped), This shows that law enforcement can be fun."
In today's society we do not burn books, but simply the fact that visual media has given reading a lot of competition, and I wonder if people read much less than before, and books may eventually be destroyed to make way for multimedia, as the books start to take too much space in libraries, that can be used for multimedia equipment.
Have a nice day,
Georges in Montreal
For the most part, we don't burn books, but there is book-burning that takes place, mostly among fundamentalists and other right-wing groups, Christian or otherwise. And then let's not forget the CD burning party by former "fans" after the Dixie Chicks criticized President Bush.
Unscientifically, I have also noticed many young people on myspace.com mock or simply ignore books on their profiles. There is a section of the profiles to be used to list one's favorite movies, television shows, books, etc., and I have seen everything from "I don't read books" to "What's a book?" to "Books are for [insert personal putdown here]." While there are many people who do list their favorite books, I would say that many more don't understand books' importance.
And who's going to take the time to read a book when you can get instant gratification in oh so many different ways?
I completely understand where you're coming from with that one. It sickens me. I love to read. There's no imagery to jump right out at you, it leaves just about everything to the imagination. I've had a whole bunch of ignorant people say crap like "you're 16 and you still read?" What kind of a question is that? I should come back with "you're 16 and you DON'T read?" Some people have no concept of expanding your mind.
Try these...
I get them thru the satellite dish. It is worth it just to have something different than the typical stuff on cable. You might could even petition your cable company to carry the different stations.
Link TV and Free Speech TV, very good stuff.
http://www.freespeech.org/fscm2/genx.php?name=home http://www.worldlinktv.org/
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http://www.worldlinktv.org/
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http://www.freespeech.org/fscm2/genx.php?name=home
Thanks for those links, Bragi. Both those sites look interesting and informative, especially Link TV. There is no doubt some worthwhile stuff is out there; unfortunately, big corporations have a monopoly on access to programming, so you can't get just the channels you want. Instead, you have to pay some ridiculous (well, to me, anyway) monthly fee to buy a "package" loaded with inanity.
Maybe someday the so-called free market will allow us to receive only those broadcasts we're really interested in receiving.
peace,
dino
What is up with TLC lately? They have been airing some pretty craptaculer programming as of late. At least the National Geographic Channel still has some interesting programming. Now granted, I do own a TV (A very nice high-end 55-inch Mitsubishi HDTV) and I do have a basic DirecTV satellite package. And also granted, I have a very nice, high-end full 6.1 surround-sound home-theater setup as well (let's put this way, you could buy a very nice brand-new car for what I paid for that thing! But then again, Sonata Arctica does sound friggan unreal on this thing!).
Despite all that, I find myself watching much less TV these days than I may have in the past. There is still just enough on that keeps me from flat-out cancelling my satellite subscription (for example, saw a very interesting program about Fireworks on the NGC. I also saw an intersting program on the D.C. Sniper case that went on in 2001, something that effected me personally, considering one of the shootings took place less than 1/2 mile from my house). As far as commercials - what commercials? I watch everything through my DVR, which has a 30-second skip button on the remote. I just skip the damn commercials. I also very rarely watch the networks. The only thing is maybe the occasional sports (NFL football in High-Def! SWEET!), and The Price is Right. Reality TV just plain sucks and I flat out refuse to watch it. I don't even watch American Idol or any of that type of crap either. One, I am not intersted in the usually crappy "pop" music they feature on those programs, and two, I just simply don't friggan care!
I find myself much rather out enjoying the outdoors, whether it be hiking/swimming at the river during the summer or skiing at the mountains during the winter. Also, all that fancy expensive home-theater gear sure is sweet on the PlayStation games. Also, movies such as the Lord of the Rings movies are just incredible on here - had friends tell me it was better than at the local movie theater.
Now back to the topic of the "make-over" shows. That always cracks me up how they try to get everyone to look mainstream. My mother tried to get me on one of those shows once, but found out my dad lost the number. My mother even told me that if I got my hair cut, I'd look more "mainstream". I flat out told her that I don't want to look mainstream. The mainstream is boring. I don't want to look like the next clown with the Ceaser cut and polo shirt and khaki pants listening to the crappy "rock" that is playing on the local FM stations these days. I enjoy being the long-hair dude cranking the non-mainstream power metal from the car (and getting funny looks from the dude thumping his (c)rap at the light next to me).
>The regular networks now seem to manage to cancel really good >shows while shoving more reality tv down our throats like Big >Brother, Fear Factor, and Blind Date, all which I really hate >with a passion.
I agree all the reality shows stink. Blind date though is not
a network show, it is syndicated.
I enjoy having cable TV, I don't think you have to choose all or nothing when it comes to tv. I enjoy watching older tv shows and some reruns. I used to think that trashy sitcoms were the worst that tv had to offer until I heard about the depths of "reality tv", a fine new oxynmoron if ever there was one.
I also have heard of these horrible reality tv shows but I keep so far away from them that all I knew was that fear factor was gross, I never would have known there ever was such a thing as longhairs getting shorn on tv except I hear about it here.
I love media and wouldn't give up my tv easily, although I mainly use it to watch dvds anymore. I agree with the posters who say "don't watch it" if it bothers you, just like all the other junk out there.
I was reading this with dread...oh no another make over show where they cut the guys beautiful long hair. But this popped
out:
"It’s a fun show and we want outspoken people who won’t let Trinny and Susannah bully them into anything they don’t want to do but at the same time would be open to suggestions of clothes they wouldn’t normally wear."
That sounds like they want someone strong to come on the
show and absolutely refusee to cut their hair and
not roll over and play dead.
So maybe some strong longhair will go on the show and
show steadfastly insist their waist lenght hair is staying
waist length.
Has this happened before on this type of show?
