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Ok guys i think we need to post some new rules. Mods please make this a sticky or a link to this or something...
#1 Talk about politics is should be off limits - it does'nt take a genius to realize Internet forum + politics = flamewar/drama. This rule is pretty self-explanitory and the only acception should be if it's SOMEHOW related to long hair. In other words something along the lines of "has there ever been a politician with long hair" is ok. But "i support/am agenst the war in iraq" or "Bush lied/was mislead (or did'nt)" is NOT ok
#2 Quit making posts about not feeling accepted on this forum - this is NOT a popularity contest. This board has the following purposes: encourage people to grow it out, advice on growing, ask/answer long hair related questions and posting your progress pics.
#3 Please stop with the "i cant get a girlfriend" or "my girlfriend cheated on me" posts - look...theres alot more guys then girls so of course not everyone can get a gf and as for the "my girlfriend cheated" almost all girls cheat, they cannot be satisfied with one man and i'm gonna leave it at that because i dont want to get flammed. Learn to be happy being single ....besides, posting about your girlfriend (or lack thereof) on a long hair site makes no sense nor will it help with ANYTHING so ether you're going to the wrong place for help or you are just looking for attention.
I'm not saying we cant ever go off topic.....off topic is fine as long as that topic is'nt something that can easily result in drama. But other then that off-topic is ok...even i post off-topic sometimes......guess there's a little ADD in all of us...heh
Hi Otaku,
you're right, and in my perception, these rules have been there already for quite some time - or did I overinterpret the published rules? And, like you, some occasional "straying" off topic is o.k. - it seems the trouble starts only when views are stated in a very apodictic way so that true believers of the other side just have to contradict.
I'd think, stating "There is a God" or "There is no God" in a post would be off-limits. Mentioning, "I'm Christian / Jewish / Atheist / Agnostic" would NOT, especially if it comes to discussion of religious rules on hair length.
Stating "I have a problem with the current war" or "with the criticism against the current war" would not be a big deal for me, especially if there is a - however faint - relation to long hair on men. However, apodictical statements like "The President should be praised / impeached, did right / did wrong" should probably be posted on OTHER fora where it is ON topic. However, I'm happy to read anything here on the relationship between Conservatives / Liberals and long hair - again, that's ON topic.
Something that I consider ON topic: Murat Kurnaz, the Turkish-born guy from Bremen/Germany who had been detained in Guantanamo for four years (apparently without posing a threat), has grown both his hair and his beard to almost waist length during that time. Just search the net for his pictures, and most of you will be impressed. You see, I gave SOME political background on the person [sub clause], and I have FOCUSSED on long hair [main clause].
A thought for all those of us who are offended by political statements: If (almost) everyone ignores them, then any off-topic discussion dies down quickly, and we can go on - that's just a "tactical" proposal.
All the best, and happy hair growth to you all!
Hans-Uwe
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apodictic (adjective): expressing or of the nature of necessary truth or absolute certainty.
from http://www.m-w.com
Thanks, Hans-Uew, I learn something every day!
Pete
I agree with you.
We don't "make things sticky" on this site. That must be some other site's terminology. Well, the users make things sticky on some of the adult sites, but we won't go there.... [grin]
I was involved in moderating this site for several years, and we learned that real people post here and we have to treat them like real people. Real people at work will mostly talk about the work, but sometimes they talk about other stuff in their lives. That is tolerated by bosses, and by society, to the extent that off-topic talk does not overwhelm the primary mission. The reason is that is what the majority of people want. We even have expressions fostering it, like "All work and no play...." It is pointless to treat people differently here because that is what real people want and what society expects. Society's rule in venues with a mission is "Stay MOSTLY on topic."
Bill
That sum it up nicely, Bill. No new rules are required. In fact, I am not sure why anyone got into a stink in the first place. The office analogy was perfect. We DO talk about other things here, but the topics that are mostly posted come back to hair. (It would be a real pity if we couldn't support one another when going through divorce or the death of a close friend or the loss of a job....anything! unless it was explicitly linked to hair.
While this is a forum for hair, it is more than that. It is a place to hang out with others who share the lonve of long hair. Friends talk. Let's not stifle the conversation.
Shawn (Mr.Crow)
PS Anyone writing or posting to a topic dealing with forum etiquette would do well to remember that they are also, in fact, writing off topic.
LOL
I agree only as long as people around here can't seem to behave themselves.
JeffL
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If they can't take it, they shouldn't bring it up.
I agree with the sentiment, but I'm not wild about the graphic
I don't think there should be any new rules added... If you don't like what someone is saying, simply stop reading it and read a different post. It's really not worth writing a long post like that, since really all it does is cause MORE of a problem.. Other than what I just said there, i believe that Bill summed it up nicely.
Guys, I need help. I'm feeling alienated by everyone on this board. I think it's probably because I can't get this girl interested in me because she only likes fans of people who suckered us into war. Please help.
I agree with you fully.
Hi Rob,
since I'm not American and don't vote in US elections, I might just say one or two things in very general terms.
Is the problem that the two of you have strongly divergent political views? In that case, you might be better off wooing a girl whose political attitudes do not put you off.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's normal and appropriate to have strong views on topics concerning peace and war, or life and death. You probably won't be able to change the views of that girl, and she certainly won't be able to change yours.
Maybe you are better off to keep your eyes open while being active e.g. in political groups whose views correspond to your own? Strongly divergent views on important issues (like religion, or war/peace) are a strong predictor of failure in a relationship, as far as I know.
After all, we do advise long-hairs to stay away from girls with strong feelings against long hair, too.
Hope that helps a bit. Rob, I wish you all the best, and I hope you find the girl who is really worth your efforts.
Keep it growing and flowing,
Hans-Uwe
While not exceedingly clever, this is rather funny...
Hans-Uwe, he was not serious.
Thanks for pointing this out...
H.-U.
I Dont answer them subjects usually !!!!
And the sign said "Long-haired freaky people need not apply"
So I tucked my hair up under my hat and I went in to ask him why
He said, "You look like a fine upstanding young man, I think you'll do"
So I took off my hat, I said "Imagine that! Me workin' for you!"
Sign, sign, everywhere a sign
Blockin' out the scenery, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?
(Five Man Electrical Band)
The Romans used to say, "The more the rules (laws), the worse the government (state, country)."
I think they were on to something.
That's the problem with this message board style. There's no 'Off Topic' section to post in, like a regular message board. So all threads get mixed together. Maybe it's time to switch over to a more practical board type.