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The company I work for says, males can't have their hair any longer than their collar. Well I'm growing my all one length, but "collar" length all around. I don't see why the females can wear theirs long, but not the males. I'm just glad I found you guys.
If you are in the United States that is considered discrimination. Hair length policies must be equal or that is sexual discrimination. Most men will not fuss . Maybe it is better to conform but if you decide to grow it then you may have a case if they decide to fire you based on hair and not production
Rich in ny
Sadly that is not the case. In the US it is perfectly legal to require that men have short hair for certain jobs with women having the option of any length. I know this all too well. While this is unfair, entrenched cultural "norms" change slowly.
"Whoso would be a man must be a nonconformist." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Conformity is never better when that thing conformed to is a violation of your principles and virtuous behavior. Conformity without reason behind it leads ultimately to mediocrity.
Hello,
what about wearing your hair in a bum during work ? so that they cant see how long are your hair :p
Cya
My hair Journal
Someday I hope either your company wises up, or that some far better company that can offer you more $$ will whisk you away... In either case, it is my understanding that in the state of California, that this unfair treatment of employees is now illegal, --- considered sexual discrimination. Maybe you should transfer to California!
- Ken in San Francisco
That's a bunch of BS, where or what kind of work do you do?
Maybe you can get away with cutting all of your collars off?
That makes more sense than the rule about hair length. [grin]
Hey, maybe you could make shirts with the collar in a different place? Like around the WAIST???? [evil grin]
Bill
Hey, maybe you could make shirts with the collar in a different place? Like around the WAIST???? [evil grin]
As a pre-emptive move on my part because I am expecting any moment to be asked to cut my hair I wrote the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission on this very topic and this is what it says: I would recomend filing a complaint with the EEOC and perhaps engaging an Attorney and sue them for sexual discrimination. You never know you could get lot's of $ and still keep your hair. To me it is blatent sexual discrimination. Anyone else go down this path???
G-O
The EEOC is responsible for enforcing federal laws that make it illegal to discriminate against a job applicant or an employee because of the person’s race, color, national origin, sex (including pregnancy), age (40 or older), religion, or disability.
Sex discrimination involves treating someone unfavorably because of that person’s sex.
It is also illegal for a company to take action against you because you complained of discrimination or because you were part of a discrimination case.
The law forbids discrimination when it comes to any aspect of employment, including hiring, firing, pay, job assignments, promotions, layoff, training, fringe benefits, and any other term or condition of employment.
The laws enforced by EEOC prohibit an employer from using neutral employment policies and practices that have a negative impact on the employment of a person because of his or her race, color, sex, national origin, age, religion, or disability, that are not job-related and necessary to the operation of the business.
In general, an employer may establish a dress code which applies to all employees or employees within certain job categories. There are a few possible exceptions.
A dress code must not treat some employees less favorably because of their national origin. For example, a dress code that prohibits certain kinds of ethnic dress, such as traditional African or East Indian attire, but otherwise permits casual dress would treat some employees less favorably because of their national origin.
An employer may require all workers to follow a uniform dress code even if the dress code conflicts with some workers' ethnic beliefs or practices.
If the dress code conflicts with religious practices and the employee requests an accommodation, the employer must modify the dress code unless doing so would result in undue hardship.
If an employee needs to modify a dress requirement because of a disability, the employer may need to grant that employee a reasonable accommodation.
If you believe you have been treated differently in a job situation because of your race, color, national origin, sex (including pregnancy), age (40 or older), religion, or disability; and you want us to investigate your complaint, you need to file a charge.
Most employers with at least 15 employees are covered by EEOC laws (20 employees in age discrimination cases).
Most labor unions and employment agencies are also covered. : The company I work for says, males can't have their hair any longer than their collar. Well I'm growing my all one length, but "collar" length all around. I don't see why the females can wear theirs long, but not the males. I'm just glad I found you guys.
You guys all have great ideas. I really like the "waist collar". I think you might have a great idea. he he
So far so good, I've just heard comments like, "whats up hippie". None have come right out & said anything yet. I just wanted to be prepared to either say, "we'll see you in court" or "we'll see you later". Since I've been there going on 24 years, I'm sure it would be the second choice. Oh we'll we see & I'll keep everyone updated.