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Hibi Quibenyiben,
Dibo yibou ibeviber spibeak plibain iband sibimpible Ibenglibish? Ibi ibam NIBOT iban ibelf!!!! Ibif yibou cibould pibossibiliby plibease spibeak ibin mibore "nibormibal" tiberms, thibat wibould bibe GRIBEATLIBY ibappribecibibatibed!!!!!!!
Thibank yibou,
- Kiben ibin Siban Fribanciscibo
E PLURABUS ELFUS I'M NOT-US
(Yield NOT unto elves!)
- Ken (who is NOT speaking on behalf of the moderating crew, --- but who is just representing his own rogue, cranky-old-geezer self)
PS - the language of "ib" can be easily translated by just subtracting the letters, "i" and "b", which come right before every syllable of the normal English word... emphasis on the word, "normal"!!!
For those having trouble translating the message i wrote to Quenyan, here's some helpful comments on how to read and speak the language of "ib"...
First off, the language of "ib' is pronounced like, "Eye-bee".
ib comes before any and every syllable in common English, for example:
"Hibow ibare yibou tibodibay?" (How are you today?)
"Yibour mibothiber smibells libike fibish-stibicks!" (Your mother smells like fish-sticks!)
"Ibelves ibare bibest stibir-fribyed wibith gibarlibic, --- nibo nibeed tibo cibut thibem ibup, thibey ibare smiball ibenibough ibas ibis!" (Elves are best stir-fried with garlic, --- no need to cut them up, they are small enough as is!"
I hope this little lesson in the elite longhair language of, "ib" has helped towards a greater understanding in the brotherhood all non-elves.
TUMULTUOUS NONSENSICUS LONGHAIRICUM NON-ELFICUM
(Non-sense, the universal language of all longhairs that are NOT elves!)
- Kiben ibin Siban Fribancibiscibo
I almost forgot to include how to correctly SPEAK the language of, "ib". Here's a couple of easy sentences to practice with your friends...
"Ibi ibam hibappiby tibo mibeet yibou" (Written translation: "I am happy to meet you!) How to speak it with the correct pronunciation: "Eye-bye eye-bam hi-bap-pie-bee tie-boo my-beat yiy-boo!"
"Iburbiban Cibowbiboy hibas tiboo mibuch fribee-tibime ibon hibis hibands tibodibay" (Written translation: "Urban Cowboy has too much free-time on his hands today!") What it should correctly sound like when speaking: "Eye-burb-eye-ban Ky-bow-bye-boy hi-baz tie-boo my-buch fry-bee tie-bime eye-bon hi-biz hi-bands tie-boo-die-bay!"
There now. I've just explained everything you'll ever need to know about life.
- Ken
"Yibour mibothiber smibells libike fibish-stibicks!" (Your mother smells like fish-sticks!)
LOL!, now that one I will be using very soon!! Nice one Kenivarius.
And how would you text-message this with appropriate abbreviations?
ib ib ib ib...
Actually, the Elvish languages used in J.R.R. Tolkien's books were largely constructed from elements of Finnish and Old English. Tolkien learned Finnish in order to be able to read the Kalevala, a collection of Finnish folk tales from the oral tradition of bards in Karelia. Further, many names and plots are from such works as the Prose Edda, and lots is borrowed from Beowulf and Welsh and Irish folk tales as well. Traditionally in folk mythoi, the elf as well was known as a small creature more akin to a leprechaun or gnome, but Tolkien's portrayal of them changed that perception.
But, there is no word for elf in my Latin dictionary, so we can "latinize" it as "elf, elvis", 3rd declension masculine.
So "yield not to elves" becomes "nolite cedere elvibus."
You've gone too far.
Fascinating info there, Bragi! Unfortunately, I have neither read any of Tolkien's books, nor ever seen any of those movies based on the books, let alone ever studied Latin (although I know Spanish - lol), --- so, I'm afraid you lost me there! But, hey, it's always refreshing to try and learn through a crash-course on the hyperboard, though (lol)!!
Anyway, since I don't know correct Latin, I make up my own. Here's a few samples...
1) "E plurabus wantum more moneyum" (I'd like some more money, please!)
2) "Urbanus Cowboyus handsommus maximus" (Nobody on this planet is more handsome than ME!"
3) "Myselfus Betterus shut-up-us Tomato-us" (I'd better shut-up now, or you'll toss tomatoes at me!)
- Kenikus in San Franciscus, Californicus
Around 60% of English comes from Latin, so by adding in some of those cool endings, you may just hit on something for real every now and then.
Try some of these endings too: a, ae, am, arum, is, us, i, o, um, orum, os, es, ibus, em, e, ui, ei, ebus, and so on.
Also, here is some non-sensical Latin for your entertainment (they're real words, but meaningless; the words sound like English words)...It takes a minute to catch on...
Caesar cari dona militari orgi versus Belgae,
Helvitii, Germani, Venetii, Britanni – iunemit.
“Romis glorius,” sed Caesar, “Nomen me impunit!”
Meni tridit – Vercengetorix, forin stans –
Caesar noctem sili fors ticinis nec aut.
Ab ludi nervi felo, Gaius Julius, iubet.
(Caesar carried on a military orgy vs. Belgians,
Helvitians, Germans, Venetians, Britons - you name it.
"Rome is glorious," said Caesar, "No man may impugn it!"
Many tried it - Cercengetorix for instance -
Caesar knocked him silly for sticking his neck out.
A bloody nervy fellow, Gaius Julius, you bet.)
Also, here is a tongue twister -
"Tinnula tintinnabula titinnaverunt." - "The ringing bells rang."
No, I'm not really this bored. It's called procrastination.
MB
Are you procrastinating on studying for finals? :-P
I can't wait until the spring semester is over. It's only a week from tomorrow for me. It'll be so nice to be able to relax, sleep in, and not have to worry about research papers and exams for about three months. Also, I'll have a much faster internet connection. These college dorm networks are so inconsistent.
LOL! I always knew it was finals week because that was the only time my roommates and I would fight over who got the privilege of procrastinating by doing the dishes and taking out the trash. :-)
Mouse
Don't worry, you kind of do know some Latin. At the risk of offending around 400 million people in various parts of the world, Spanish is just really screwed up Latin!
Actually, I thought it was funny to do ask the question in Ibish. Oh, and Quenya and Sindarin are based off of Finnish and Welsh respectively.
But the persecution of my Elven friends and allies shall cease. (Just kidding....not threatening anyone unless he serves Melkor.)
~Meldon Antessë, Tanoquettar a Cormacolindor
Oh, and "No in elenath hîlar nan hâd gîn" to everyone...
Thanks, Antesse,
You' re a real Elendiel.
I appreciate it.
Go to http://celebrationofcelts.com
That oughta be fun, too.
Not a munchkin,
Quenyan =:-)}
Aaah, Ken,
So. It was YOU who said, in an anonymous email, that I "sounded like a stupid moron", didja? And signed-off calling me a "stupid fucking shit", eh? My, where has the camaraderie of the board gone? All this cantankerous jousting! Tsk. Housecleaning indeed.
Good night now.
Judiciously yrs,
Quenyan
P.S. Everything abt the Elven Race you need to know is all over the information superhighway. Procrastinate some more & find it . . .
No, sorry, --- that's not quite my style. I don't send anonymous e-mails... I can't get away with it, even if I tried: my correct name is within my e-mail address. Not only that; but I remember the offensive anonymous e-mail you are talking about, which when it came to our attention as moderators, we were all in complete agreement that this person was completely out-of-line.
Besides, I don't need to use language from "the gutter" in order to ever get my points across. "Potty-mouths" like the anonymous person you mention reflect only a 6th grade education. At least give me credit for finishing the 7th!!!!!!!
- Ken
. . . the seventh grade from an episode of the original children's program on PBS television, "Zoom!", pretty much the same as your "Ib-ib" spoken code. All right, Ken, I appreciate your West Coast hills of San Francisco sense of humor. But, also, ya put a "star" in me; upon first reading of your initial joshing, why, I got the old fight or flight feeling of a zillion ants crawling all over my scalp. Not a well-sought-after sensation, I might add.
You're forgiven. Maybe we' ll share a beer and a couple of tunes to salsa to some night when I come over to visit my Mac representative pal in Ridge Hill, hmn?
Thank you for the follow-up, Mr. Urban Cowboy. I really DO appreciate it.
The great-grandson of actress Billie Burke,
Quenyan =:-)}
Well, Quenyan, if Ken doesn't take you up on that offer to go for a couple of beers, I will! If you ever should make your way to the Boston area, give me a shout.
I'm curious, what part of the elven realm interests you the most? Rivendell sounds to be exquisite but I think my heart would always be more in Lothlorien.
Jason
. . . but, hey, man, yeah, fershure! And definitely Lothlorien. Oh, oh! Ever hear of the bands Requiem In White and Mors Syphilitica? Well, the former came from Boston. They "evolved" into the latter. They have, however, broken up. Husband and wife team, Doc and Lisa Hammer, are doin' quite different things now, apart, at opposite ends of the continent. They're all over the net, too. "Search" and ye shall find.
Wait a sec, Jason. I'd've MUCH rather have lived w/t TRUE, HISTORIC Elven Race, the ones who later left tombs that were documented in archaeologist Elizabeth Wayland Barber's "The Mummies of Urumchi", as they scattered traces of their diaspora in certain regions of the globe. Pretty phenomenal.
Oh, oh! I flew in through the open window of one Erin "ElfBlade" Lindsey's ridiculously over-researched elf site the other day. Whoa. Talk about being in too deep, bro! Click here:
http://sandbat.batcave.net/graillore.html
This will take ya to his essay, "The Enduring Legacy of Elves OR: How I Found the Elves (and what I did with them when I found them)" . . . oh, OH!!! There's even ANOTHER one that's a kind of extensively listed "everything You Always Wanted to Know About Elves, But Were Too Procrastinant (hi, Ken!) To Do a Search For", at the same location, except that, well, I seem to've misplaced that particular URL.
Anyway, anyway! Your hair looks great, Jason! I can't wait 'til I can have the wife braid my hair once again, too. Or bun it up my(s)elf. I'll attempt to get pics of me up here some day when mine was belt length.
Camaraderie in long-hairedness (and elvishness),
Quenyan
Quenyan:
It took me awhile to finally respond (all apologies): thanks for the email (from your site). I tell you I had to google Mors Syphilitica. -Then it made sense...
Despite our differences ... must I say that a beer would be in order as well?!
So speaking frankly should I say ...
elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo
It's quite fascinating my friend ... oh ... and Isolde says Hi - lol
Tristan
http://sandbat.batcave.net/graillore.html
Definitely, Keebler:
Hollow tree full of cookie-making elves
Thanks, Bill. Best laugh I have had in a couple of weeks!
I would love to visit both places, but Doriath would also be an amazing place to see!
Are you really urban cowboy? this post just doesnt seem like who you are... unless someone hacked your account in order to hurt your reputation...
Friends,
Ludi is latin for play. This was fun.
But in all this frivolity, everyone has failed to ask the most important question: "What is an elf?" Or as the French might put it, "What is elfness?"
If we cannot answer this question abstractly, as well as ++++ operationally, ibconibcoribdantibly, then I will never know whether or not I am an elf.
Sincerely,
Caledonian
"What is an elf?" Or as the French might put it, "What is elfness?"
Elves are the Firstborn Children of Ilúvatar.
. . . this site: http://sandbat.batcave.net/graillore.html
Well I don't think there was any elf shinannigans in my family as we are all over 6 foot. I do have a fear of bridges tho, or is that trolls Quenyan?
Hey Dave, good query. Go to this URL and see a quite different image than the one Senore Bragi rendered:
http://nexusmagazine.com/articles/ringlords1.html
After which the other URL I gave Jason will come in pretty handy, too. Your hair's lookin' good. I also like the autumnal feel of your MySpace page. I love the autumn. I kind of fear this being a too-hot-to-bear summer for us Yanks. Our Aussie brethren are enduring a severe drought as I write w/ water restrictions t' boot.
Studiously yours,
Quenyan =:-)}