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A month ago i got a job making 13 an hour, everything was going great then we got a new manager and a couple days later i get a call from my temp agency according to the new manager "things arnt working out"
I cant help but think this was because of my long hair....they NEVER gave me any warnings or anything...then this crap gets pulled...they could'nt even tell me themselves???
I'm just really pissed because things were going so well then all of the sudden this crap happens....and i get NO feedback what-so-ever on WHY i was even fired, they did'nt even tell the temp agency why, all i know is the manager told them "things arn't working out"
I doubt i'll be able to find another job that pays around that much that i can commute to.
I was saving up everything i made to get the surgery i want in March 2008, but now that i've lost my job it looks like i might not even be able to get it next year.....
I have $6600 saved up and need $13,000...little more than half-way there
Hopefully i'll get another job soon so i wont have to push back the date too far....
am i gonna have to proof read more resumes for you?
sorry to hear about the job loss. that really sucks. i would freak out if i lost my job.
good luck finding something even better!
peace,
nic
That's a shame, sorry to hear :/
Maybe you can somehow contact the new manager and at least ask why he fired you? Or are they such cowards that they won't even say?
I'm sorry to hear about the job. I know it must be frustrating to think you may have to push back your surgery. But, keep this in mind. You are motivated, dedicated, an already halfway there. You're still very young and farther ahead in you transition than many other. I have friends who have been through the same thing. Loosing jobs, having problems with Dr or Phychiatrist thowing in extra hurdels... but they all made it. And so will you. Have faith in yourself, and know that though you may encounter some rough spots along the way, there are those of us who fully support you. You'll get through this and eventually become the person you always knew you were. good luck, and godspeed!
No worries man.
It does show what kinda of people were running the company if they cant even tell you to your face, but who the heck needs them anyways? You will be able to find a job in to time with Nic on your side!!!
and dont let this determine if you keep your hair or not.
peace and good luck
clayton
___Hire an attorney. You have a gender discrimination lawsuit from the sound of things. Go get them and good luck with your changes.
Sorry you lost your job man.
The problem with them is not that they are not man enough to tell you why they fired you. They are not man enough to face up to lawyers.
"Not giving a reason" is very common with employers because they all fear lawyers. When lawyers might be involved, one is always best to say as little as possible. If you are smart, though, you will not involve lawyers. Whether you have a case or not, you are probably best off to just go find a job elsewhere. If you got the job a month ago, you are clearly employable in that field, so just find another employer in it to hire you.
Good luck!
Bill
Otaku: I agree with derf26 about going to the new manager and asking him why he decided not to have you come back from the temp agency. Your employer was the temp agency. So they may not like their temps to communicate directly with the businesses where they place temporary staff. I'm in the counseling business and I have frequently encouraged "employees" and sometimes only candidates who didn't get jobs to go back and ask why but to ask in a way that you are trying to learn something about how you could do better next time or next place. Employers don't expect this to happen and often the outcome is very positive either in a re-hire or some very constructive feedback on ow to better onesself. I have had many clients in your situation pleasnatly surprised. It's important to have resolved your disappointment, hurt, anger first. With your situation, you may violate your temp agencies policies re: contact the temp placement site--so you would have to check that put. I am probably very naive, but I wouldn't automatically assume your hair is the reason. Kind of wordy. Good luck with your next steps whatever they are.
Go to your job regularly like the temp agency never told you anything, clock in, do whatever you need to do, until the new administrator says something. He'll have to give you a reason, and he'll have to do it in person!
No. Terrible advice. I hope you're kidding. If he does that, he's burned his bridge with the agency. They know he was told the assignment was over. The manager knows he ended the assignment. Doing such a thing would actually be kind of creepy--shades of "disgruntled ex-employee visits former office".
No. Just grin and bear it. If the agency still likes you, you'll get more assigmnents. If they don't like you, there are plenty of other agencies.
When you're just starting out I know every little bit helps, and any loss hurts; but that's what it's like when you deal with temp agencies. There will be more assignments; but the whole time you're working your assigmnent, you should be looking for perm (no pun intended).
Dawn
I used to have that problem with temp agencies back when I was young back in the 80's and that's when I had short hair.
My belief is that during republican administrations jobs are hard to come by especially for young men of military service age. It's called the "economic draft".
Or they just found someone to do your job cheaper. If you are educated they replace you with skilled foreigners with H1B visas.
Judging by your post you were making exceptionally good money. They always get rid of the workers who have the highest pay and benefits and replace them with workers at a lower pay grade often with no benefits. New managers like to prove themselves by downsizing things.
Considering you can be doing a good job and still get fired. Many companies these days will hire foreign workers. The correct term for this is race based discrimination. They know these foreign workers will accept wages far lower than the average American would. Personally I would suck it up and not hire a lawyer. Or you could be blacklisted in the industry if you try to sue.
That sucks Otaku, but be confident with your skills, hold your head up high and you'll get another position in no time.
good luck,
Bruce
We might be able to help more if we know what political juridisdiction and what company. What are your skills? Let's get concrete.
Unless you work for the US Government, in the central administration, you will be able to get another job.
Cal
wow 13k what are you having done? Temp jobs do that crap don't get down, your young and good looking, you'll get work!!!
Peace
Since you asked, the procedues i am getting done are a Rhinoplasty and some brow work.
A rhinoplasty is the medical term for what you would call a "Nose Job" More spicificly i would like my nose to be less wide and ALOT less projected (not stick out as far) and the tip refined. Also i would like the rhinoplasty to be done in a way that would make my nose look more feminine.
For the brow work i am going to have two things done. First Brow bossing which is a procedure where they make sand down the actual brow bone, then i am going to get a brow lift which will pull the muscles and skin up makeing my brow higher and more feminine.
$13,000 is actually a good price for haveing all this done INCLUDING the hospital fees AND cost of the local/general.
I also have no doubt that if i get the result i have in my mind that it will make be happy for about 10 years at which time i'll opt for a touch up in a few areas.....but keep in mind 10 years is a long time.
I can't believe you're still considering that surgery.... what happens if it comes out differently than you expected? You will be stuck looking like a clown!
First of all, you, like many others on here, dont understand how important getting this surgery is to me. Im not going to give up on this.
And yeah i know im taking a risk by getting surgery. but in life we must take risks. You've been brain washed by the media that everyone who gets plastic surgery will end up looking like jackson. The truth is the VAST majority of people who get plastic surgery ARE SATISFIED with their 1 year post op results.
Yeah theres a alot of people who get messed up by plastic surgery but if you compare it to the number of success stories, then the number does'nt seem so high
For example Somewhere between 10 and 15 percent of people who get a rhinoplasty are unsatisfied, however this number is drasticly lower, if you were to only include top surgeons who specialize in rhinoplasty.
And of course the ratio of satisfied and unsatisfied patients depends on the procedure. Some procedures yeild very high unsatifactory results, best augmentation being surprisingly the highest in unsatisfaction....while other procedues are very simple and very very low risk such as lip augmentation which very rarely yeilds unsatisfactory results.
The two procedures i am going to get done are: a rhinoplasty and some brow work. Nether are likely to be botched with the surgeon i have selected
I've done alot of reasearch on this subject...
I realized I had not chimed in yet. Because it was a temp agency, you aren't really an employee of the place you worked. They shuffle people around. Granted, when I was a "temp" the warehouse specifically requested me because I planned it ahead of time with someone I knew. Could even be that they wanted a new person or wanted to cycle people through or wanted fewer people.
I am not sure what you do but I'd keep looking. They say to end temporary unemployment, spend just as much time trying to get a new job as you would have spent on the job you used to have. Whether that is filling out applications or interviewing or learning a skill / reading books, getting a new job should be a 9-5 kind of thing. Despite what people say, there are jobs out there, but it may take some looking and some compromises.
Maybe you could try a different temp agency. Or one in a slightly different field. The one I worked for a few summers ago provided people to warehouses and such and there was on-the-job paid training for jobs needing special skills such as driving a forklift. I worked hard in the receiving department (not with a forklift) moving boxes and shelving things and I got 9 and change for a first job at 18.
Hi Otaku,
So sorry to hear about this. Losing a job that you really liked totally sucks. Guessing whether or not having long hair might be the reason he let you go is a waste of time, though. None of us are able to mind-read, --- plus, this new manager made no verbal reference to your hair; so, I doubt any lawyer would see you as having any legal case against this company.
If you had worked for this company directly (instead of through a temp agency), even under those circumstances, it's important to understand that most companies have what's called, "A 90-day trial period"... If a new employee makes it past those 90 days, then the employee is considered, "permanent", --- which puts more legal accountability on the employer if they let someone go AFTER that trial time is over. However, BEFORE those 90 days are up, if your manager doesn't like you (for ANY reason, --- although one would hope it would be a legitimate one), that manager and/or company can legally (and EASILY) let you go... and are not legally bound to say even a word as to why!
Unfair as this practice is, you have to understand that in today's litigation-happy society, companies are terrified that an employee can be just as unfair as an evil company (which is usually the case about companies - lol), --- and, worst-case-scenario, could financially break the company's back.
I manage a small kitchen at a private nursing home in the SF Bay Area (I also do part-time gardening work; but, in that case I'm my own boss - lol). The Administrator of that nursing facility is one of the nicest, kindest bosses i have EVER encountered! Anyway, a few months ago we had a new girl hired on for our weekend dishwasher. She turned out to be a total lemon. Even in her first week she took so many cigarette breaks that she was away more than she was actually doing her job! I spoke to her about several issues that needed serious improving, --- and reminded her that she was still very early into her 90-day trial period. My boss was very suppoetive of me wanting to give her as many chances as possible, to see if she could get her act together; but, eventually both of us realized that her work, at best, would be only "mediocre"...
When it came time to let her go, my boss advised me to say as little as possible, --- so, when I called her to fire her, I thanked her for "trying" to make the improvements I had asked of her; but, that it just wasn't "working out." According to my boss, legally we had no obligation to tell her any more info than that. Had we kept her on-staff past her 90-day trial period, though, we would have had to do a hell of a lot more paperwork in order to let her go...
It is my understanding that in working for a temp agency, you would have even less legal clout than someone working directly for a company who is in the middle of a 90-day trial time.
I hope this information is helpful to you, --- and I wish you the best!
- Ken in San Francisco
I never once said or even suggested that i was going to take legal action
Furthermore, I have no interest in takeing legal action....this was'nt a 90-day trial through the company this was 90 days working for the temp agency...THEN IF they wanted to hire me i would go through another 90 day trial only with the actual company
LEGALLY i was not a part of the company....i was a part of the temp agency therefore like you said they could fire me for ANY reason since im not even a part of their company.
Theres a reason its called a TEMP agency...
My only concern at this point would be to get another job HOPEFULLY one making as much as i was at the company i worked at and one i commute to.
My temp agency told me they rarely get positions in my area that i would be qualified for so basicly i cant depend on them for a new job.
And I didn't say you said that; but, a few others did mention it, --- so I brought up that point.
Yes, I understand.
Yes, once again, I understand...
I hope for your sake, this would happen, too!
Hang tight... you never know when something else will open up (whether w/ that temp agency, or not).
- Ken
PS - The reason I even brought up the topic of 90-day trial periods was because IF you ever get hired by a company directly, you know what to prepare yourself for (and will be fully aware of what they can legally do or don't have to do)...
Also, I was using it as an illustration to make a point: that being in a Temp Agency has even less legal responsibility to explain anything to you, when/if a company lets you go.
That's all, really, --- I just get wordy sometimes. My apologies for any confusion I may have caused.
- Ken
Hey, sorry to hear about your losing your job. I'm with ya, man: I'm temping now, too, and I lost my job yesterday. The difference is that I'm not saving for plastic surgery (see: rent) and my job paid crap. It seems you've gotten some bad advice here...
My story's a bastard, too. I wasn't even told I was fired. I checked my voicemail at 11pm after I got home (see? crappy job) to find my agency had called and told me I'd not be needed. My manager screwed something up, I took the blame, and I was gone. I'd definitely like to sneak up on him as he leaves work for home and kick him in the balls from behind. Considering, it'd seem that confronting him and asking him why we were terminated seems reasonable, right?
BUT, especially we temps, cannot do that. I was specifically told by my temp reps that we don't dispute or confront anybody at the client's, all such things go thru the agency. As a temp, you're a representative of the agency, and anything you do before the client reflects on your temp agency. They don't tell you why they were fired because that's a difficult thing to do, and they're exercising their unfortunate right to take the more cowardly route and not tell you. Bite the bullet, man. If the agency's still willing to represent you, it's because they're not convinced you're at fault and see the problem as being with the client, at least for the most part. Try talking to your agency handler.
Going and asking for feedback from the new manager will burn your bridge with the temp agency, definitely. It may also get you arrested, and that'll burn your bridge to other temp agencies in the area.
I have temped for MANY years, of all had long hair. Your guess may well be right.
Dont let it poison you attitude. Move on. The economy (and I assume you are in the CO-USA) is about to get very bad. It may have just been a temporary need.
Skip the haircut. They really want your soul.