Silicons Pros and Cons

• Silicons Pros and Cons
  

  

  Neo

  
  

  Hello again,

  last time I posted I think many people got the wrong idea of what I said.
  I don't curse silicons!

  So I wanted to list PROS and CONS of silicons :)

  PRO:

  - lays a film over your hair, giving it more resistance, volume and strength
  - improves combing, less tangles and knots
  - gives the hair more shine

  CON:

  - the wrong silicons can cause a silicon build up
  - the wrong silicons HIDE hair damage making it almost invisible, but it's there and the damage goes on and gets worse (split ends for example)
  - for some hair types DECREASES volume

  There are silicons you can wash out COMPLETLY just by using water.
  These are the "good silicons". And there are the band ones you CAN'T wash out. They stick to your hair and cause the silicon build up which of course isn't good for the hair and the scalp that gets "blocked" after a while due to the high amount of silicon on it.

  The really good silicons are (for example):

  Trideceth-12, Dimethicone Copolyo, Dimethicone copolyol/HWP, Hydroxypropyl, Polysiloxane, Lauryl methicone copolyol

  The neither good nor bad ones:

  Amodimethicone, Behenoxy Dimethicone, Stearoxy Dimethicone

  and those you CAN'T wash out (except you use a shampoo that contains no silicons and a more or less aggressive tenside):

  Cetearyl methicone, Cetyl Dimethicone, Cyclomethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Dimethiconol, Stearyl Dimethicone, Trimethylsilylamodimethicone

  It really depends on YOUR hair type if you should use silicons or not.
  I don't do it and my hair is much healthier than it was before.

  BUT if you start using silicon free shampoos: Don't be suprised!! Your hair has to get used to it. Most hairtypes need 2 weeks to 2 months to get used to the "natural treatment".

  I hope I could "help" some of you finding a new way of hair treatment or just gave some new information about silicons :)

  Keep it growing
  Neo

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  • Re: Silicons Pros and Cons
    

    

    Scooper

    
    

    Thanks for the info Neo, as soon as I get my magnifying glass out I'll read the itty bitty print on the bottles.

    Bruce

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  • Re: Silicons Pros and Cons
    

    

    animosity

    
    

    My shampoo has 3 cones in it, one good and two not listed...hopefully not a bad one...although I don't mind these side effects. I know I may have split ends I cannot see but I do plan on trimming eventually anyway.

    Thanks for this information Neo.

    -animosity

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  • Re: Silicons Pros and Cons
    

    

    GlassEyes

    
    

    I used to use them so often I thought my hair loved them.

    Went off of them a few weeks ago and my hair loves me for it. xD

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  • Re: Some links with info
    

    

    Hair Religion

    
    

    These links give some more information on this topic:

    http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/silicone_use.html

    http://www.online-ambulance.com/articles/doc/2/grp/Dermatology/art/Scin.htm

    http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic508.htm

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  • Re: Silicons Pros and Cons
    

    

    Adagio

    
    

    Hello again,

    last time I posted I think many people got the wrong idea of what I said.
    I don't curse silicons!

    So I wanted to list PROS and CONS of silicons :)

    PRO:

    - lays a film over your hair, giving it more resistance, volume and strength
    - improves combing, less tangles and knots
    - gives the hair more shine

    CON:

    - the wrong silicons can cause a silicon build up
    - the wrong silicons HIDE hair damage making it almost invisible, but it's there and the damage goes on and gets worse (split ends for example)
    - for some hair types DECREASES volume

    There are silicons you can wash out COMPLETLY just by using water.
    These are the "good silicons". And there are the band ones you CAN'T wash out. They stick to your hair and cause the silicon build up which of course isn't good for the hair and the scalp that gets "blocked" after a while due to the high amount of silicon on it.

    The really good silicons are (for example):

    Trideceth-12, Dimethicone Copolyo, Dimethicone copolyol/HWP, Hydroxypropyl, Polysiloxane, Lauryl methicone copolyol

    The neither good nor bad ones:

    Amodimethicone, Behenoxy Dimethicone, Stearoxy Dimethicone

    and those you CAN'T wash out (except you use a shampoo that contains no silicons and a more or less aggressive tenside):

    Cetearyl methicone, Cetyl Dimethicone, Cyclomethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Dimethiconol, Stearyl Dimethicone, Trimethylsilylamodimethicone

    It really depends on YOUR hair type if you should use silicons or not.
    I don't do it and my hair is much healthier than it was before.

    BUT if you start using silicon free shampoos: Don't be suprised!! Your hair has to get used to it. Most hairtypes need 2 weeks to 2 months to get used to the "natural treatment".

    I hope I could "help" some of you finding a new way of hair treatment or just gave some new information about silicons :)

    Keep it growing
    Neo

    My new shampoo and conditioner which I havent used for a long time yet, makes my hair feel and look much better but they contain many of the bad silicones. I don't know if I should use it any longer.

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  • Re: Silicons Pros and Cons
    

    

    Rob

    
    

    Hi Neo,

    you have presented some fairly technical specific information that may have the potential for being useful, however whenever I find anything such as what you have written, given as facts on the internet, I become suspicious when these are not accompanied by some basis for them such as the citing of sources for the information. I'd like to know how you happened to come by what you have given us below. Thanks very much.

    Hello again,

    last time I posted I think many people got the wrong idea of what I said.
    I don't curse silicons!

    So I wanted to list PROS and CONS of silicons :)

    PRO:

    - lays a film over your hair, giving it more resistance, volume and strength
    - improves combing, less tangles and knots
    - gives the hair more shine

    CON:

    - the wrong silicons can cause a silicon build up
    - the wrong silicons HIDE hair damage making it almost invisible, but it's there and the damage goes on and gets worse (split ends for example)
    - for some hair types DECREASES volume

    There are silicons you can wash out COMPLETLY just by using water.
    These are the "good silicons". And there are the band ones you CAN'T wash out. They stick to your hair and cause the silicon build up which of course isn't good for the hair and the scalp that gets "blocked" after a while due to the high amount of silicon on it.

    The really good silicons are (for example):

    Trideceth-12, Dimethicone Copolyo, Dimethicone copolyol/HWP, Hydroxypropyl, Polysiloxane, Lauryl methicone copolyol

    The neither good nor bad ones:

    Amodimethicone, Behenoxy Dimethicone, Stearoxy Dimethicone

    and those you CAN'T wash out (except you use a shampoo that contains no silicons and a more or less aggressive tenside):

    Cetearyl methicone, Cetyl Dimethicone, Cyclomethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Dimethiconol, Stearyl Dimethicone, Trimethylsilylamodimethicone

    It really depends on YOUR hair type if you should use silicons or not.
    I don't do it and my hair is much healthier than it was before.

    BUT if you start using silicon free shampoos: Don't be suprised!! Your hair has to get used to it. Most hairtypes need 2 weeks to 2 months to get used to the "natural treatment".

    I hope I could "help" some of you finding a new way of hair treatment or just gave some new information about silicons :)

    Keep it growing
    Neo

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    • Re: Silicons Pros and Cons
      

      

      Neo

      
      

      Hello,

      I could give you the main link i got it from

      http://www.lhpa.info

      It's a mostly german site, but maybe google translation is able to translate it in an understable way.

      You can also look at the longhaircommunity, they have topics like that too and you'll find these informations really fast there.

      Neo

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        Rob

        
        

        When I go to that web site address I get a blank page.

        Hello,

        I could give you the main link i got it from

        http://www.lhpa.info

        It's a mostly german site, but maybe google translation is able to translate it in an understable way.

        You can also look at the longhaircommunity, they have topics like that too and you'll find these informations really fast there.

        Neo

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        • Re: Silicons Pros and Cons
          

          

          Neo

          
          

          That's strange because it works for me

          Strange...

          I remember James had similar problems with german links, I don't know why.

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            Scooper

            
            

            I got to the site also. Could be that thier server goes off line from time to time

            Bruce

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  • Re: Silicons Pros and Cons
    

    

    Emagdne

    
    

    Hello again,

    last time I posted I think many people got the wrong idea of what I said.
    I don't curse silicons!

    So I wanted to list PROS and CONS of silicons :)

    PRO:

    - lays a film over your hair, giving it more resistance, volume and strength
    - improves combing, less tangles and knots
    - gives the hair more shine

    CON:

    - the wrong silicons can cause a silicon build up
    - the wrong silicons HIDE hair damage making it almost invisible, but it's there and the damage goes on and gets worse (split ends for example)
    - for some hair types DECREASES volume

    There are silicons you can wash out COMPLETLY just by using water.
    These are the "good silicons". And there are the band ones you CAN'T wash out. They stick to your hair and cause the silicon build up which of course isn't good for the hair and the scalp that gets "blocked" after a while due to the high amount of silicon on it.

    The really good silicons are (for example):

    Trideceth-12, Dimethicone Copolyo, Dimethicone copolyol/HWP, Hydroxypropyl, Polysiloxane, Lauryl methicone copolyol

    The neither good nor bad ones:

    Amodimethicone, Behenoxy Dimethicone, Stearoxy Dimethicone

    and those you CAN'T wash out (except you use a shampoo that contains no silicons and a more or less aggressive tenside):

    Cetearyl methicone, Cetyl Dimethicone, Cyclomethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Dimethiconol, Stearyl Dimethicone, Trimethylsilylamodimethicone

    Interesting info, Neo. My shampoo doesn't have anything that ends with 'cone' so I shouldn't have any problems.

    My conditioner, however has 'Amodimethicone' (neither good/bad) and 'Lauryl Methicone Copolyol' (good). Should I continue using it? Is it safe to continue? lol.

    One of my sisters conditioner doesn't have ANY cones but she probably won't allow me to use it, which is why I am asking if it's okay to continue with my own conditoner. <_<

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