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Some of you may remember back in February I made a post in which I asked for advice as to whether or not I should cut some of my hair. This is because I'm a member of a high school which imposes hair regulations, and a teacher had asked me whether I was going to get a hair cut. I listened to your advice, and I decided to not cut my hair. I'm in my last year of high school, by the way (which is coming to an end). I've been very pleased as my last hair cut was April 17 last year, and so I've surpassed a year's growth (although my hair isn't what you'd call long - far from it !), it's at least nice to have the satisfaction of having over a year's growth. Anyway, I only have 2 more weeks of school until it's over (apart from having exams through the end of May and June), so it's safe to say I won't have to cut my hair.... HOWEVER... I got some letter (which my parents have read, which adds to my predicament) explaining the details of the graduation which is towards the end of June... there are specific instructions for boys to have cut hair and be clean shaven. Anyone who is not will be sent home. So, yes, it seems like I'm going to have to cut my hair for this, just for the sake of a couple of hours! I wouldn't want to be sent home though. I know this isn't until the end of June, but I wanted to ask this now, so I have time, and it's not left until the last minute. What do you think I should do?
Here's a photo I took with the webcam - sorry it's low quality. With my hair like this, I certainly qualify for a hair cut with their specifications... but as you can understand, I don't want to give up over a year's growth!
By the way, I know this has been asked before, but my hair is very frizzy and dry at the back (it looks a huge mess) - what's the best way to try and overcome this? Sorry for my long post,Thanks in advance,Lee.
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By the way, I know this has been asked before, but my hair is very frizzy and dry at the back (it looks a huge mess) - what's the best way to try and overcome this? Sorry for my long post,Thanks in advance,Lee.
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By the way, I know this has been asked before, but my hair is very frizzy and dry at the back (it looks a huge mess) - what's the best way to try and overcome this?
Sorry for my long post,
Thanks in advance,
Lee.
Hm, tough one. In how much trouble do you get if you don't cut your hair? If it means you can't graduate without having a haircut, then I suggest you have one. It puts you one year behind, but it's not the end of the world. At least you can start growing it properly after that.
The dry hair at the back could probably be due to a cotton pillow or one that causes friction while you sleep.
It happens to me ALL the time!!
I know what you mean about losing the effort of growing it. It really sucks. It sucks a lot that you go to a high school with hair regulations. I mean, I really hate it when people enforce unwanted rules on you. Especially when they're appearance related and completely immoral for them to rule out your appearance!!! I especially don't agree with the "clean shaven" rule.. Personally I get a lot of rashes and acne when I clean shave; my skin just hates being messed with artificially, haha.
Unfortunately I don't think there is much you can do until the graduation :(
Last year I got a job and was told to cut it, so I got it trimmed shorter. When I started however they said that I hadn't listened to them and that I had to cut it by next shift. By cut it, they meant shave. I lost a year's hair growth too, ironically.
It pisses me off because I only worked there 2 months.
But sometimes this is how life works.
Unfortunately you're still under school enforcement :(
Maybe you don't have to shave it all off.. but cut it to a "decent male"'s hair length... like an inch or two. That will give you a headstart for when you grow it again!
Do you have friends in this situation? What are they doing?
I'm sorry I wasn't of much positive help :(..sometimes society forces us against our will and we really can't do anything about it apart from obey :(
Good luck in whatever you choose to do.
Shawn
Hi Lcg
The schools I went to, luckly, did not have hair regulations based on length, although my high school disallows coloring one's hair unusual colors such as green. I have seen one or two long-haired guys at my high school, and I have seen several longhairs at Renton Technical College. And your hair does not matter when you graduate RTC (my high school is unknown). What matters about graduation is that you passed all the classes and stayed in school (in fact, about 80% students have dropped out from my program while I was there).
I would not agree with such rules that your school had put up. If you do have to cut your hair, you can at least get a little trim, to make it neat and presentable. Then you have all the time to grow it back when you graduate. A couple of inches of trim will probably grow back in a month or two.
As for me, I got a trim myself for my cousin's wedding in February, which I did not want. I looked worse after the trim. After the wedding is over, I wish I can restore my hair, but only time can. With that, I became much more strict about growing out my hair. Obviously, there are too many rules out there that are meaningless.
By the way, congratuations anyway on one year. Remember, that haircut is short term and your hair will grow back afterwards. And congratuations on graduation high school.
Can you wear a wig? I would for a 2 hour event...
I would look at ways to hide it first seek the opinion of a hiar stylist if need be. Your hair isn't that long to begin with I can't see them actually sending you home but I don't know them.
Hide it
Kevin
There is a big difference between being sent home from the ceremony and not being allowed to graduate. I'd seriously doubt that "having short hair" is a requirement for graduation. Usually requirements for graduation are passing certain courses with an acceptable grade point average.
I've known of kids to miss graduation because of illness, because of going into the Army, because of leaving to take a job, etc. And I know of five kids who were not allowed to attend graduation because they had shaved their heads. In all cases, their schools just mailed them their diplomas.
Besides, if experiencing having short hair really is a requirement for graduation, remember that you can meet the requirements of graduation over a four year period. You did not take all of your classes in the spring semester of senior year. You can remind them that you got the experience of having short hair under your belt last year.
If don't care as much about attending the two hour ceremony as you care about keeping your hair, you might consider just going as you are. It is doubtful they'd raise a ruckus there because that would spoil the environment more than your appearing with long hair, and the graduation ceremony is one they want to come off flawlessly. Lots of outsiders to the school will be there. I would not get myself arrested over any fights that they might start with you, but I'd be adamant that you have met all requirements for graduation and that they will be seeing you in court if your diploma is not in hand within 24 hours. If you are not 18 already, you will be soon, so you can choose how to act whether your parents support you on this or not. You will have time to decide if you are going to file legal action. It would be nice to have their support though, of course, as well as the support of all of your friends who might also attend. Your friends can be pretty effective at hooting them down if they give you crap about your hair. Remember, they want their little party to come off flawless.
This is a very common tactic used by anti-longhair bigots, by the way, to insist on short hair just for a brief event. We've had guys report that they faced repeated requests to cut it for their cousin's wedding, for an aunt's visit, for their graduation, for their brother's graduation, etc. The bigots will always find another event within months to harass a longhair with again, if he doesn't put a stop to it. He must put a stop to it or he will never get his mane.
Good luck,
Bill
I was going to say something along these lines when I first read your post, but it was late, and I wasn't thinking straight. The ceremony is just that. Usually the grades and paperwork are finished and filed, so by all reckoning a person is graduated before that actual ceremony. Depending on the school system, if you make arrangements ahead of time, you can get the piece of paper before the ceremony, though it may not be in the spiffy folder, or ask that it be mailed to you when it is available. Else, like Bill said, you should be able to pick it up at the school office the next weekday.
So the question is, how important is the ceremony, to YOU? You can still have a party for your family and friends, and attend your classmates' parties without walking across the stage. And, actually, you may even be able to attend as an audience member to applaud your friends. It all depends on what's important to you.
I agree with ESDI; if it is only for a couple of hours I would get a short hair wig that meets their specifications.
If your folks are behind you, days prior to the graduation, I would groom my hair well, put on the cap & gown and (with parents in tow) go the the graduation coordinator and/or principal and ask why you cannot attend YOUR graduation as presented. I would love to see a photo of you dressed as such.
Having said that, the graduation ceremony may be very important to you and your folks (walking across that stage IS a very special moment), so do what you must.
Let us know.
WWT (Walter White Tail)
Oh dear more red tape from the school institutions over there it's really sad as your only a few weeks away from graduation. It's certainly something I'd discuss with you parents and see if you can come up with a working solution.
Good luck and let us know how you get one.
Cheers,
John.B
Is this an American public school, by any chance?
If they have "specific instructions for boys", that sounds exactly like a violation of Title IX, which says you can't "on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity". Requiring specific body alterations for one sex but not the other sounds like a pretty clear-cut (pardon the pun) case of sexual discrimination.
I would ask them straight up if they would require you to cut your hair to attend graduation, and if girls are also required to have short haircuts. If the former but not the latter, I would ask them if that's more important than receiving federal funding.
Consider it one last civics lesson!
Don't back down.
In the land of the free and the home of the brave, where we value rugged independencde, how is it that so many simply give lip service to these slogans?
I am president of the W NC chapter of the NC affiliate of ACLU. When this sort of issue comes to our attention, we write a friendly, warm, pleasant letter asking the agency to explain the basis of their discrimination. If women are not required to conform to this standard, your school is on very shaky ground.
Each state has an ACLU affilliate, which you can find on line, so it would be worth an e-mail to ask what resources they have to help you maintain your freedom.
When confronted in such a pleasant way, most agencies back down.
Caledonian
in North Carolina
: By the way, I know this has been asked before, but my hair is very frizzy and dry at the back (it looks a huge mess) - what's the best way to try and overcome this? : Sorry for my long post,: Thanks in advance,: Lee.
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Hey all, thanks for your words of advice. I don't have much time at the moment, so I apologize for being so brief. I should have mentioned though, at the beginning of the post, that I'm in the UK, not the US, so I apologize for not mentioning that. In the UK, schooling, including graduation procedures etc. are quite different to the US.
Ah, but you see, that only confuses us more! As an ex-pat Brit living in the US, I know that things haven't changed to the extent that we even have such a thing as graduation in the UK. So, what on earth are you talking about?!
As a mere oik, not having attended a private school, I suppose your school might have some sort of graduation ceremony, but it is of no importance in the grand scheme of things. Perhaps what you are referring to is 'prizegiving'. Even some state schools have such a ceremony (although mine didn't).
For the benefit of all those living in the USA, there is nothing in any way similar or equivalent to a high school diploma in the UK. Instead, you take a bunch of tests at 16 and again at 18, and each subject stands or falls on it's own, so you end up with a number of passes (and grades) in each subject at each level, or not, of course.
The tests are organised by 13 boards, some national and some regional, and your test results are a matter between you and the board. The school merely acts as a 'test centre' for GCSE ests at 16 and A-level tests at 18, much like it would for SATs in the US.
Maybe a private school might hand out A-level certificates in some kind of ceremony, who knows? In my state school you just went in and picked them up when they received them from the board!
However, the certificates would not be the property of the school, and refusing to forward them to the pupil would be a serious matter, so I don't think that's in play here. FWIW, if they ever did that, then the following year the school would find itself having to change it's syllabi (syllabusses?) to one of the other 12 boards, because that one would kick them out!
So, it still comes down to this - how badly do you want to attend the ceremony? It will make no difference to getting into the college of your choice, getting a decent job, or, in fact, anything much atall! Or at least short of getting a job or a reference for college from some other kid's father or WHY?
elektros, I apologize again for not making myself clear. I would have done, but I didn't have the time when I wrote that this morning. I didn't intend to take this into any details - so maybe I should have said that my school wanted me to attend an event rather than saying graduation in particular. This would avoided the unnecessary (but understandable) confusion this topic has produced.
I attend a private school, yes, and so we have this graduation, but it's a mere "graduation" - so yes, it's symbolic , and is something that you're expected to attend, despite it having no significance in the overall scheme of things. I apologize for not being clear as this obviously has led people to believe that this is something more significant than it is, and I understand why people have deviated to talking about graduations in general, rather than discussing ways in which I can hope to overcome this situation. Things have been taken out of context, but this is because of my failure to be clear.
So, I'd like to extend my apologies to everyone for this, and hopefully this will draw a line under the whole graduation question, that has arisen from this topic. But, despite this, I'd like to thank you all for your replies, and the time you have taken to give advice. I hope this clears things up for you all.
I used to go to a private school and during my sophomore year (we leave secondary school in sophomore here, and go to a sixth form for junior and senior years), we had rules for guys to keep their hair short and that silliness... my hair was really not-long at the time and since it was curly a lot of its length was hidden. Ironically they never used to tell me off to cut my hair but they were always pestering the people with straight hair shorter than mine.
For graduation they just said that we have to be neat. Had I not cut my hair between finishing school and graduation, I would have gone with gelled hair, and not bothered about what they had to say.
Private schools suck, period.
I think your hair gelled back should be neat enough for their standards. If not, then you have loads of advice here from the others.
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