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on fridays show 3-22-02 there will be 4 guys with VERY long hair one of them has a four foot long mane!!!
the problem is they are all going to cut it off!! looks like im going to have to tale it out and whack it before they do if you know what i mean!!
If these men didn't want their hair to be cut, they could have outright refused. Some of their wives did cajole and even coerce the men into having their long hair cut, but the men allowed it. Nobody held a gun to their heads, or threatened any violence. The bottom line... it was the mens' choice to be clipped!
Outside influences can be incredibly strong. Individuals usually aren't encouraged.
I knew this guy who had hair past his shoulders and his "Preppie" fiance told him he was going to have to get his hair cut before the wedding.
I saw him about a year later with a short "yuppie" do. he basically gave in to a materialistic chick. she believed his chances of "Financial success" and "job security" would be much better if he had short hair. in other words she was concerned about her financial security, but not his happiness.
most Goth chicks like guys who aren't Yuppie/preppie types and I've seen some Gothic couples where the guy has longer hair then the chick, so these woman would never ask their man to get a short haircut like a Yuppie woman would.
also many women who are into country music also have husbands/boyfriends with longer hair too.
Your point? There are people of every backround with various stances on hair length. Being of a particular subculture may lend itself to lead in a certain direction, but everyone is different. Probably most yuppies want their men to have a "regular man's styled haircut," but I am sure there are some that have long haired, short haired, or shaven headed husbands. It's not correct to pigeon hole people based on what we may percieve their social status to be.
Well, that's unfortunate, but I also know of women who refuse to let their husbands have very short hair or a shaved head, even when it's what he desires. It goes both ways. Obviously it would be much better if a person's partner allowed him to be himself, but, unfortunately that is not the case in many instances. This particular issue is more of a marriage/partnership concern than it is a matter of hair length, as far as I'm concerned.
Is this more of his locks of love sh@t? I think the cause is great but it seems like he trys to guilt them into chopping off years worth of hard work.
i do not understand "locks of love". so people hack off this great long hair they've been blessed with just so someone can have a hairpiece?
i realize people have different views of the meaning of life and how one can be truely "happy", but i seriously do not think having a high quality wig is going to really make anyone happy, even if it is for "financially disadvantaged children across the U.S. under age 18 suffering from long-term medical hair loss."
anyway, i hope the guys getting their hair hacked are paid nicely for this.
The only thing they will get out of this is a free hair cut, air fare to the show, and a hotel stay. Guests on talk shows are rarely paid anything. I doubt anyone considering a makeover would even think about financial renumeration!
Another thing, obviously you are not a little girl who is bald! I think it can make a bald little girl VERY MUCH happier to have a high quality human hair wig. Look how vain you are about your long hair, and you're a man! It would really be cool if they would shave your head, just so you could feel how it is to be bald! Maybe you will go bald as you age! Then you'll have an idea, but it's still very much acceptable for a man, not a girl! You will never know what that feels like!
I agree with most everything you say, but...
What does being a man have to do with vanity? I always thought vanity goes for both sexes.
I think that if they want to go on Maury and give Locks of Love hair, it's probably okay (assuming Locks of Love is not making any false advertisment claims).
But I am adamantly against those who haunt longhaired men and tell them how selfish they are for not giving their hair to Locks of Love. "They need it more than you" or "your not a woman" does NOT cut it for me. Always be for yourself first, I say. YOUR HAPPINESS IS MUCH, MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE KID SUFFERING FROM LEUKEMIA. If you are not happy, how can you possibly live? Hair donation to these poor kids is only acceptable, in my opinion, in the instance where it is possible to give your hair and still maintain happiness. In this way, you have done something grander than making yourself happy. You have made both yourself and the kid with leukemia happy.
Of course, if you are only capable of making either YOURSELF or THE CHILD happy, you must choose yourself. It's unfortunate for the child, but it's better than your unhappiness. Remember that by not giving your hair to the child, you did not make his or her situation any worse than it already is.
Your hair, which belongs to your body, is absolutely and unconditionally yours. If you decide to donate it to Locks of Love or something of that nature, that hair ought to be considered a fabulous, irreplacable gift. It should not be treated as if it is expected that people will overcome their selfishness and donate their hair. And as if any who do not are heartless, selfish bastards.
Well, yes, we are selfish. But that's what makes us all able to stand on our feet. But heartless and bastard, I don't consider myself either.
I know of a beauty pageant winner (Miss "something or other" State in the south) who had beautiful, thick, long red hair. She asked a sick little girl what she would ask for if she could have anything. The girl told her she wanted her hair. Miss "Whatever" State, after her last competition, tearfully had her hair cut into a near buzzcut, just so the girl could have a wig made with her hair. Most likely there was hair from other people in that wig, as well as her own. The point is, this woman with her trademark hair very unselfishly had it cut off to make someone else happy. Another point, this was a couple years ago, and I am sure this woman is well on her way to beautiful hair again. It's only hair, it grows, as long as you're not ill!
Does this make you selfish? Not really, though some of your post sounds almost selfish. I have never actually heard of people who haunt men to cut their hair for LOL anyway. Perhaps they do this on the Maury Povich show? I really don't know. These men knew what they were going there for anyway, didn't they? I guess we'll find out tomorrow. In any case, a man (or woman) who absolutely does not want his/her hair cut can just say no. Noone can really make anyone feel guilty. It is within one's own mind to decide if there should be any guilt or shame.
>>It's only hair, it grows...
That is what the always say to try to make you feel better about accepting their decision for YOUR hair. Tell them that you don't appreciate their thoughts on your hair and they get pompus fast.
People do go out of their way to "inform" men about Locks of Love...and always specifically Locks of Love because they see it on TV shows, Maury being the biggest repeat offender. I even had one lady customer (short haired) in the salon where I get my hair trimmed who felt the need to "inform" me while I was in the chair!
Watch the show and take not of the atmosphere. The crowd is especially worked up and has great fun heckling and cheering the longhairs into submission, all fanned by the host. It's a sick carnival that becomes clear when you see people crying after losing their hair. Many of the people are willingly getting rid of their hair but is it necessary to have such a production over donating something?
I think that the shows ratings depend on the conflict between those not really wanting to lose the hair and the tugging on the heart strings of unfortunate middle-class cancer-ridden (non-african american) little girls with no hair. How 'bout the little boys? Hmmmm, maybe it's more of a social issue and not some kind of inherrent moral issue? Come to think of it most of Maury's shows are about social opinions. Most people with cancer are not children but Maury won't tell you that.
If cutting someone's hair is done just to make someone else happy then it's certainly not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. How many parents don't want their kids to be long-haired hippies? Many things happen to countless people every day, we all must first carry our own burdens and deal with our own lot in life. This hair thing with cancer doesn't address the cancer, just the outward appearance of having a type of therapy for it. Your social sexual role seems to be the issue here. Think of Africa where bald women are the social norm in many areas. What does this say and how important is it all?
Tell that to my twelve year old daughter who has gone through Chemo. She would love one of those "high quality wigs". I make too much money to qualify to get her a good wig, but cannot afford to buy one out of my own pocket right now.
There is a lot of controversy over Locks of Love. I do not know what the poop is, but people who DO NOT WANT THEIR HAIR ANYMORE give them the ponytail, a wig is produced for a child who needs them. What is the problem with that?
What pisses me off is that most long haired people assume that everyone who gets their hair cut is making a critical mistake and that there is someone out to get them: whether it be an employer, a big scary corporation, Maury Povitch or Jenny Jones.
Remember...Scandal and controversy makes stupid people watch TV.
I am against making people cut their hair against their will as much as you are, but if these men are STUPID enough to accept a trip to the big city and let themselves be humilated or RUINED (like you are assuming) by getting their hair cut on national TV, then it is no one's fault but their own.
It is a free country and they can say NO! No one, including the Big Bad Maury Povitch, is forcing them, or even shaming them, to do anything. I doubt if you watch (which you shouldn't if it will upset you) that you will see anyone get tied up, sat on, or assaulted in order to get their hair cut.
And another thing; How seriously happy does YOUR hair make YOU?
Get over yourself.
nothing.
my hair does not make me happy at all. i just appreciate it. (to a certain extent)
ok. sorry if i offended. there is more to say, but i have given up arguing over the internet as it pretty much does not work in communicating ideas. anyway, i am sorry about your daughter. and if she would love one of those wigs, i hope she gets one at some point. it is not that i do not care about people; it is just really hard for me to communicate. also, i hope you are not mad at me.
later. :)
Maury prods many people to cut their hair who do not seem to be ready to cut it. Many of these people are pushed onto the show by family and "friends" who want them to cut their hair and become "normal".
That is the problem with this show and their affiliation with Locks of Love.
I even watched Maury call one person "selfish" for growing their hair that long just so he could get them to let someone cut off their very long hair.
People are not giving their hair to a specific person when they do this show, it's just a faceless organization (with a glut of hair). Maybe it would be different if they were to bring individuals in and then make sure that that hair got made into wigs for that individual...there is great TV and there is crap TV.
I agree with absolutely everything you said. The thing is, some short haired men think that men who are growing their hair, or already have long hair are making a big mistake. I think the biggest mistake is in letting others' opinions get to you. Who gives a sh!+ what they say?
Really? You don't understand why anyone would DONATE their hair for a child with cancer?
Do you live on Earth? Do you not have a tiny, miniscule amount of compassion?
I applaud anyone who sacrifices anything that is really important to them for another in need.
Remind me not to have a heart attack around you.
ok. ok. i am sorry. i came across very unclearly.
i was going to try to explain, but i could not think of any way to properly explain.
the point is, i am not heartless, (and looking back at my message, it really does look like i am heartless) and i totally do not want to make anyone angry. the message was kind of supposed to get at a point i had. i think.
but please do not be offended. if you understood my idea, you would not be offended. anyway, i know i ask a lot because my message sounded heartless, but please please understand. thank you.
anyway, i will try to be more careful of my posts in the future, and once again, i wish no one to be offended.
later. :)
Just in case some of us don't get a chance to view the program when it airs (after all, it is a syndicated show and the same program may not air all over the country at the same time), would you tape the show this Friday and make it available to any of us who may not get to see it? I can't stand seeing guys getting their long hair cut off, but I would like to see the "before" shots. Please let us know the next day who has the show on video, and how we can obtain a copy.
Thanks.
Someone once told me that I should donate my hair to Locks of Love. They said that I was being selfish for not doing it. I responded that anyone who did not grow their hair just so that it could be donated must also be selfish!
If someone thinks that you are selfish for not donating your hair, then it makes sense that they are selfish for not growing theirs to donate it. Perhaps both of you are selfish in different ways? I actually think it works the other way. People who donate their long hair are UNselfish.
I had considered growing my hair for LOL on a couple of occasions, but to tell you the absolute truth I have receding, thinning hair with a bald spot just beginning at the crown. While other men may think that looks fine for long hair, I absolutely do not! If I had a headfull of thick hair, I really think I would grow my hair in two year cycles to be donated to LOL. I like long hair, and I like shaved heads. That way I could have it both ways. Oh well, I don't think I will have 10 to 12 inch long hair in this life anyway. {shrug}
I'm posting this Friday morning. I saw a preview of today's Maury show yesterday afternoon, and yes, I will be watching the show this afternoon. Why? Because I like seeing guys with long hair. I like long hair. I would love to have long hair. And although alot of people I work with think my hair is long, it is definitely not LONG like the guys on maury's show. Maybe someday I'll have it that long - I hope so, I really do.
Regardless of the reason that those four guys decided to cut off their long hair, THEY made the final decision. I don't think any woman/lovermade FORCED their decision, nor do I fir one moment believe the stupid notion that one grows his hair long just so that he can one day cut it all off to donate to LOL. All four of those guys probably decided they just wanted a change.
The way I look at it is that THEY have had really long hair, THEY have enjoyed having really long hair, and THEY can now cut it all off and have short hair if they want to. The point is .... THEY at least have had and enjoyed having really long hair, something I (and many of us) only dream about. If those guys want to, they can grow it back. But at least they know the experience of having really long hair. I envy them.
Anybody on the east coast see Maury yet? How was it?
I have to wonder if sometimes these guys are paid to do this and the show has extensions put in their hair to make is more sensational for viewers.
I do not think most guys with hair that long would cut it just because a wife or girlfriend didn't like it...seem the opposite would be true.
I taped the show so I could view it - and just did so. Actually, there were six guys with long hair, and I thought it was pretty much a circus act. BTW, there was some GREAT looking hair on the show. All of the guys were shorn on stage with girlfriends, wives or other SO's participating in the "fist cut".
What I found to be troubling went beyond these guys getting their manes clipped. The show was filled with cliche's and other stereotypical views of guys with long hair......."you look like a girl, you look like a biker (or a rocker), your daughter's boyfriends are afraid of you, you look menacing, when we're done with you you'll look like a real man, what's wrong it's only hair, ctc......."
In addition, I found it interesting that all of the guys, when initially introduced to the audience, were dressed in jeans and
t-shirts. Of course, when the transformation was complete they were brought back on stage (one at a time to increase the drama)dressed in suits, ties, carrying cigars and briefcases. One of the most dramatic guys was a black man with long braids who initially wore jeans, t-shirt, bandana and carried on about having his hair cut. In fact, his girlfriend did not want him to. When he was reintrtoduced to the audience he was presented completely shorn, wearing a dark suit, sunglasses and posing with a cell phone to his ear. The picture was: with long hair this guy is a complete doofus but with an ultrashort haircut (and matching wardrobe) he's king of Wall Street.
I don't care if people with long hair (M or F) choose to cut their hair and donate it to a charity - provided it's their choice. However, what bothers me about this type of show is the hype and the degredation and the negativity that is wrongly projected.
Good point! I didn't see the show, but if it happened the way you say, and I believe it most likely did, they were being stereotypical about the entire situation. While many people strive to be politically correct these days, I don't think sterotyping will go out of style in the near future! Sad, but true!
alright, so this is a little off the hair topic, but i also watched one of those shows a while back, and i think it was some "makeover" thing, where they showed them and talked about them up until now, and used insulting words to describe attributes of their style. then, after that they walk out and they look different and the host says how they look so much better now. (usually i thought they looked better before, but that's just my opinion.)
i guess i am just ranting on this form of entertainment that excludes and even often insults certain appearances. it seems as though they are trying to sway public opinion about these appearances. evidentally there are enough people that agree with the opinions shown that allow this type of entertainment to sell, which is, as i understand, the reason it is able to air on television.
Excuse me? You're gross.