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First of all I'd like to thank Matt for bringing up this film in an earlier thread and to all those who twisted and re-twisted my arm into a pretzel to go and see it.Well I just got home a little over an hour ago and have to say this movie blew me away.The 3D was great but the overall story was very emotional.This movie was worth the admission and I'm tempted to see it again this time at a true IMAX theatre. I can see the moral of this story is that corporate greed has no morals.What they tried to do to these poor people was horrible.I was pleased at the ending though dismayed at the destruction.For those of you who have not yet seen it I highly add my recommendation to the list.The longhair presence with those phenomenal braids was to die for:)
Mark
Glad you liked it Mark ... I'm also tempted to see it again ... a really good film with some good messages. Bravo to James Cameron (who I am told I used to look like before growing the mane).
Karsten
I really was moved by that picture as to me it was definately good against evil.Of course it was the longhairs being on the good side against those evil buzzcuts!lol. Well I plan to see it again for sure in the next couple weeks.It would have been cool having a longhair meetup tied to it.Anyway hope things are going well for you as of late Mark, and that you are getting stronger since your surgery.Cheers my friend:)
Mark
I agree Mark. This is the only movie that I will ever rate a 10 out of 10. It takes a lot for me to rate a movie a perfect 10. Most of my "favorite" movies get an eight or a nine on my scale. I seen this movie at the regular theater, but it is still very awe-inspiring. I downloaded the soundtrack, and I believed I have discovered a new genre of music, the Na'vi genre. My belief is that this movie teaches us to take better care of our planet. I do not want to see Earth become the way it came in the movie.
Here's an example of how I rate movies.
10 - Avatar
9 - Crouching Tiger
8 - Joe Dirt
7 - Charlotte's Web
6 - Roger Rabbit
5 - Mighty Joe Young
4 - King Kong
3 - Curse of the Jade Scorpion
2 - Hulk
1 - Pan's Labyrinth
Hi Matt,
Well I have to thank you for mentioning this film on the board last week as otherwise I never would have been inclined to see it.I too would rank it a 10 and that says a lot coming from me who usually doesn't like movies made today.Every once in a while I get pleasantly surprised.Be well my friend!
Mark
Hi Mark,
I am so glad that you took the plunge and went to see that movie, and that our arm twisting worked! By all means take the plunge and see it at the Imax. I only saw it once, and the Imax experience is the only way in my opinion.
David
Hi David,
It was great to see this picture even though I only saw it in 3D at a regular theater.There is an IMAX near me that I will see it at the next time even though its more expensive than the regular theater.The time just flew by as I watched which goes to show how riveted I was to it.Glad you made it home safely David:)Cheers
Mark
Hello Everyone,
I saw Avatar for the second time, yesterday, in 2D, after seeing it in 3d two weeks earlyer.
Seeing it a second time, went by as fast as the first time, and I admire the CGI work being put in this movie.
I love how pseudointellectuals say that everything in this movie has been done before, with patches from Dances with Wolves, terminator, etc...
However I think the message has never been said enough, about the powerhungry corporate types who destroy peaceful lands and people for their own profit.
I really liked the message this movie put forward, and the fact that it is still number one on the box office, says a lot.
What I really like is how the long hair is a link to the natural world.... I do not want to spoil that for others who haven't seen the movie...
Another concept of this movie, is the "Link", or "Artificial Reincarnation", which hasn't been seen in any scifi before. That is transfering a human conscience in a NA'VI body.
In New Age circles, people once talked about "Walk-Ins", where aliens use the same techniques on us.
Have a nice day,
Georges in Montreal.
Yea, and then they call the people who live in these lands "the enemy" like they are the ones who did something wrong.
Oh we'll negotiate your relocation but if you resist we'll just blow you up!Really nice,huh...
I'm glad people are watching this as they need to take a step back and realize whats important in life.The message was well delivered.
Yes, I really liked that part:)Hair certainly is natural so it makes perfect sense that it is that natural link.
I found that part fascinating making this movie so awe inspiring.
You have a nice day too Georges and stay warm up there:)
Mark
I agree it is the classic story of white men pushing aside the native populations to get at a valuable raw material or really good farmland. It was well told though and using little known actors enhanced the film I thought.
Sometimes I feel hypocritical condemning my ancestors for doing what they did while I live in a time where I am enjoying the benefits and comforts that are in part a result of their earlier actions.
We can't change the past but we can learn from it if we choose to.
Kevin
The only other time I came across a similar concept was in the Cluster series by Piers Anthony. I thought it was a great (not to mention efficient) way to see the stars. They're very much teeange fiction, but I still enjoy reading them even now.
I give the movie a WOW, too. I like to analyze the science in sci-fi movies. There's always a lot wrong, but it's fun to imagine anyway.
But there's one biological discrepancy I feel I must point out. If the Na'vi (or however you spell it) evolved from lesser life forms on their planet, why do they only have one pair of fore-limbs instead of two pair, like all the lower life forms? And why is their nerve endings for communicating with other life forms in their tails instead of appendages on their heads like other life forms? Just wondering....
Well I guess if want to be picky there is always some issue you can question in movies such as Avatar.One that I wondered about was the fact that the atmosphere must be fairly thin since the humans needed air masks when outdoors.If that's the case how was all that fire sustained during the bombing runs since oxygen is needed to maintain a fire.Maybe someone here will have an answer to that one.Still though I loved the picture.
Mark
My guess is that there was plenty of oxygen, but another component in the air deadly to humans. After all, a mask alone can't supply oxygen. On the other hand, though, there are plenty of sci-fi movies where just a space suit, with no bulky pack like the Apollo astronauts wore, supplied all the oxygen the person inside needed.
We just saw Avatar in 3D in the Imax theater downtown. It was awesome. Thanks guys for talking it up - that is why we went!
Bill (now wondering what would happen if he plugged his braid into the Internet)
Glad you enjoyed it Bill,as I was prompted to see it after Matt first talked up the movie earlier.I was so riveted with what was going on that the length of the movie didn't even bother me.I liked the fact that the long braids actually had a functional use:)I plan on seeing it again at an IMAX since I just saw it at a regular theatre in 3D last Saturday.This movie looks like its going to set records for attendance.Three cheers for the braids!
Mark
He'd probably get a virus.
Only if plugged into a PC! Lol. Not in a mac:)
Mark
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I really love the hair on them. It is fantastic. They are quite humanlike and yet have long tails which makes them look really cool too.
Although I have not seen it yet. I see that the plot is very similar to the plight of Native Americans from 150 years ago. Corporate greed is among the most wicked of all things.
Despite the attention to detail, the surface gravity of Pandora was very miscalculated. With a diameter of 11,447 kilometers and a mass of 0.72 of Earth, the surface gravity would have to be 0.8921 of that of Earth, not 0.8 as stated.
I created a spreadsheet to do these calculations a few years ago.
diameter - 11447 kilometers
density - 5.4765 grams/cubic centimeter
mass - 0.72 of Earth (4.3013^21 metric tons)
surface gravity - 0.8921 of Earth
escape velocity - 10,008.9 meters per second
orbit velocity of spacecraft @ 400 km alt. - 6842.5 meters/sec
with a period of 1H 33M 48.6S
Despite this glitch, I do want to see Avatar at some point.
Scott
Ha Ha Scott,thanks for the info on Pandora as I figured something might be amiss about that but I guess in movies you are allowed to overlook certain details.You should go see this picture Scott as you won't be disappointed.It took much arm twisting to get me to go and I'm glad I did:)
Mark
The plot of white man falls in love with native maiden, wants to live with natives, marries native woman, and takes up their cause is not exactly new. Dances with Wolves had that plot but it was not the first.
But it was a fantasy, man. Mice can't talk, but Mickey Mouse sure can. What matters is that the public can buy into the fantasy well enough to enjoy the tale. Most people aren't going to care about the intricacies of the planet's gravity.
I wonder if any engineers among us noticed the name of the mineral sought, "unobtainium". That name came from a very old engineers' joke. I heard the joke when I was in engineering school in the 1960s. It means that a design relies upon the existence of a material which is unobtainable. If you designed an aircraft, for example, and the calcs worked out beautifully, but they required a metal be used for the plane that had no weight, the joke would be that the design required unobtainium.
That did not cause me to not enjoy the show, though. Someone slipped that in who knew the joke, and I laughed when hearing it, but the show must go on!
A similar situation exists when a movie is set in San Francisco and the characters go around a corner and are suddenly three miles away in another part of town. Or there is a diskjockey in a radio station and all of the meters are not in the right places. And a friend of mine once saw a movie where a ship radio operator was frantically sending Morse code as the ship sank, and what he sent was, "Are any of you hams copying this?"
MOST people don't notice these breaks with reality, and those that do mostly just chuckle. The whole movie is actually a fantasy, as I earlier said. [grin]
One requirement that is seldom abandoned, though, is that major characters must have faces. Most people can't identify enough with characters that don't.
Bill
Well for me this is very rare to go see the same movie twice.I rarely go to the movies at all so that says a lot about how I feel about this one.Also I saw it in IMAX 3D which was awesome.I liked the story but me being so much into longhair made the picture that more appealing.It seems like heaven to live in a world where everyone was a longhair and I mean 100%!I don't intend to see it a third time in theatre but I'm sure to buy the DVD when its available.It would be cool to make the Na'vi character the mlhh logo but I think there would be a bit of a copyright problem with that.lol.
Mark