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I even posted a question about songs related to "Hair" topics and only received one response.
I thought at least 20 of you would have responded already!
there appears to be a strong fascination with hair on this site. all this talk with "hairsticks" and other related topics has got me stumped!
maybe I got the wrong impression.
I originally thought this was a Hippie community and Hippies generally do have long hair and will discuss hair, but to my knowledge were also always into music too.
anyway, it appears I have wasted my time and probably yours so I won't be posting here anymore since no one seems remotely interested in rock and roll music on this site.
so whatever you're into good luck with that and I'll try to locate a legitimate hippie community to my liking elsewhere.
RockandRollFan,
Quite frankly your question about songs about hair comes up quite frequently here. This is a longhair site and not exclusively a "Hippie" site. Plus you took the two most prominant ones for yourself. I think your stereotype of longhairs loving music also is an old one and not necessarily valid anymore. I am passionate about music but don't think everyone with long hair has to be and I'm sure there are those with short hair that like Rock and Roll as well as anyone else. Don't go away mad and know that we welcome your imput here but your are expecting too much too soon. Lot's of other specific Rock and Roll sites out there.
Take care
from a longhaired Rock and Roll lover!
jonalbear
While it is appreciated that you post your fascination with music. You have to remember that everyone is different with music tastes. Not all of us would like to be labeled or associated with being a hippy. I for one have a strong taste for classical music. But I wouldn't force or label longhairs as nerdy classicist. This is a site mostly for encouraging hair growth, and any promotion of helping hair grow longer with the use of sticks as one other form (there are many other protective wear forms) to protect the ends of the hair. Yes many of us are here because we are "fascinated with growing our own hair" hence many of us are looking for the support, advice, tips for the well being and health of our hairs.
peace,
rowie
Of course I like Rock N Roll music but I'm open to other forms as well with some exceptions obviously.Sorry that this site isn't living up to your expectations as even though we all have a common goal of longhair the similarities stops there with some of us.People have different interests,different careers as well as different life experiences.Our users are from all over the world too so the hippie lifestyle may seem foreign to them.Anyway maybe someday you'll stop back as you never know what topics might come up if it isn't exactly hair related.Cheers
Mârk
I for one have a very wide taste in music only roughly centered around classic rock/hard rock/metal/alternative. I have lots of techno, 80s, country, cajun music, classical (I'm quite partial to Bach, Wagner, and Tchaikovsky!) and even some rap music. Yes, I have a few Tupac and Snoop Dogg tunez. Last but not least is crazy random music I bump into on the internet or vaguely remember from the clubs. Who likes Deadmau5?
Maybe you asked the wrong question? Ive been drumming since I was 8 years old, I almost 50 now so I would have to say that music is probably more important to me than my long hair. The only song that came to mind to me wa "Signs" by Tesla(which I know is not the original version) but the song is not just about hair which is what your question asked.
Five Man Electrical Band had the original version.
"And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply"
"Freak" was mostly what we called ourselves back then. "Hippie" was used more by people who did not like us. The opposite of "freak" was "straight". That later got the meaning of "non-gay" as well as "non-freak". Soon "yuppie" replaced "straight", which avoided that confusion. "Freak" got other meanings, such as "phone freak", and "hippie" lost much of its negative connotation, so people later began to use "hippie" more, especially in the last fifteen years or so. The "y" in "yuppie" originally stood for "young", but now we have old yuppies, and of course we have old hippies. As time passes, words evolve, and at any given time, not everyone defines them the same. About three years ago a teen girl on Haight Street said to me as I passed, "You are too old to be a hippie". I said to her, "Where were you in 1967? Dead, probably," and I walked on.
Besides in the song "Signs," the word "freak" does creep in into other lyrics and into some expressions still in use. An example is referring to a longhair's mane as his "freak flag".
Another expression in use back in the 60s and 70s was "sold out to the system". This meant you had cut your hair and gone over to the other side, with an implication that you had done it for the money. It was likened to having sold your soul. Thus, although having long hair and being a hippie were not 100% in correlation, the correlation was high.
As for music, freaks were into a variety of music, probably a more diverse variety than that listened to by the straight population. However, there were certainly genres that were associated with freaks, such as psychedelic rock songs. A lot of straight kids dug those songs, too, though. They rose high on the charts.
One change is that music was a much less visual experience then than it it today. There were only three TV networks, and they were all run by executives who did not like hippies, or any kind of rock for that matter. There were no music videos, and about the only time you saw band members was on their album jackets. Plus, there were occasional movies made that had rock artists in them. This situation let each listener create his own images with his own imagination when he heard songs, and to my eye, this made the music much more beautiful. However, it did cause people to see a less homogenous image that any particular song portrayed.
When the Beatles appeared on the Ed Sullivan show, what was remarkable was not hearing the Beatles. Everyone had heard the Beatles. It was SEEING the Beatles, and on national TV no less.
American Bandstand had televised youth music for some time, but the program was squeaky clean. Dick Clark was what today we'd call a yuppie, through and through. If he hadn't been, he would have never been allowed on the air. His mission was to make rock and roll attractive to Mom and Dad, and in doing so his portrayal of it failed to represent much of what the music was about.
For many people, the social and music scene surrounding them when they come of age is magically embedded forever in their soul. My favorite songs hark back to the late 60s and early 70s, and in many other ways my soul will always be in those times. I will always be a hippie.
I would point out we had the forerunner of "music videos" i.e. the Monkees. They paved the way for what evntually became music videos. (I would mention I have a friend who worked
for Davey Jones fro a number of years.
Although if you watch those half hour commerials for Time Life
records you can see images of those old performers. But yeah
it was different era and TV definitely changed the music industry.
But they must be short clips that they have obtained. I say that because I've heard if you buy the set, there is no video on the disks. They are just the audio. The ads make it look like you'll get video, but you don't. Why would they not include the video, unless they don't have it? Even youtube, which is a video site, does not have video on many of the old rock songs there. They'll just show the album cover.
Why would one buy just the audio? You can find it all over the Internet. I've never even saved files like that on the Internet. I never save anything that is on the Internet. If I want it, I can just google it and enjoy it again.
Yeah, when I was in high school, I taped songs off the radio. I think a lot of kids go through that stage. Fortunately I grew tired of that before I went to college, because I put my way through college as a DJ at the local rock station. They had lots of records. Man, I'd still be there taping them.
Bill
I've bought some of them and you don't get the videos.
But then viedoes of the peformers were hard to come by,
it was prior to MTV, prior to VH1. and it was an era
where TPTB at tv were very picky about what they put on the
air.
I would also point out some of those images can't be used
today because noboby thought there would be any interest in them
so they never thought to consider the issue of rights. It's the same with a number of older tv shows on DVD.
Becuase if you wanted a number of songs you'd have to buy dozens
of albums/CEs to get those dozens of songs, instead of buying one
CD with the dozens of songs you want. (Music back then wasn't like today where you can pick and choose the songs you want.)
It's easy to forget about the advances we've made in video recording since then. Video recorders were the size of refrigerators. Film with sound was also not obtainable without a lot of equipment. Cameras were generally tripod-heavy. Fans definitely did not sneak in film or videotape cameras. Even audio recorders were reel to reel and were the size of a small suitcase. No one snuck in audio recorders either.
You could get small cameras that recorded video on 8-mm-wide film, but I don't remember their having audio. The video quality was awful. This is where the blurred video with the lips out of synch that we see in old videos sometimes on YouTube probably came from.
The cost of recording video was high. Many TV shows were done live because of this, and this is why so few early TV shows are preserved with existing copies. There were no originals, thus there are no copies.
Because the cost of recording was so high, that surely added to the scarcity of recordings when coupled with what you said, that there was a lack of interest by those who would have been spending the money.
One event I remember may put the difficulty in perspective. A top music act appeared at our university. The student who ran the audio equipment in the hall was determined to get a copy of the concert. He ran wires from the room's sound equipment to the telephone closet, where he found unused wires that also appeared in the telephone closet in the campus radio station. Then he recorded the concert on the high quality tape recorders at the radio station. He got a very good copy, but there was NO VIDEO. I knew the guy well enough to know he would have gotten video if he could have. He didn't get it. He didn't even consider it. With the technology of the day, it was out of the question.
Bill
Actually I'm more into the heavy metal thing...though it does kinda make sense since I'm still a bit young.
No this is not a hippie community although they are welcome. Perhaps you might read the posts more carefully - it is a long hair site with people from all walks of life contributing.
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We have a diverse longhair community here. Out of all here, probably 5 or less are hippies. After looking at the membership roster, I am sure of only 3 out of 124.
I like 60s rock music best and wear tie dye shirts. I fit the hippie profile. Maybe just ask, how many hippies here? I know the number is quite low, but you never know, there may be more out there that I am unaware of.
Scott
One thing to keep in mind is what your definition of what a hippie is. Yeah I had long hair, loved rock music, most of the time dressed like a hippie, but I never did drugs (except pot on occasion), didn't protest the war (too busy working/going to school/etc.) So was I a hippie? Some might say I was one but some might also say I didn't qualify as one.
I also didn't go to woodstock, didn't partake in other stuff hippies were famous for. So it depends on your definition of
a hippie.
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Good point, under my definition, only about 3 qualify as true hippies. Our membership liat has 124 on it now.
Scott
I've had longhair for what 8 years? I don't consider myself a hippy, I never have, I never will. Nothing against hippies, its just not how I identify.
I do however, like Rock Music, mostly alternative rock and its derivatives such as grunge, but I also like classic rock, punk rock, pop-rock, folk-rock, metal, piano rock and classical music.
Do I like that music because I have longhair? Do I have longhair because I like that sort of music? Hell no. They really are two separate parts of my personal tastes.
It strikes me as rather narrow minded to assume a longhair community is going to be into (a) or (b). Sure there are Hippies here who like Rock Music there are hippies who dislike rock music and there are non-hippies who like rock music - the world is full of wildly different people, I say, be a true hippie and celebrate that!
I'm one of the original hippies who started growing his hair
long in 1964, I love rock music and worked in radio back many
years ago.
To my knowledge there were not that many songs about long hair.
("Almost cut my hair," Signs," "Your Daddy Don't Rock and Roll"
"Come Together" and the muical Hair. After all these years I'm at a loss to name other songs that were about long hair.
I xhould note that when I worked in radio it was top 40 in the 70s.
Any songs I missed or need to be reiminded of? There may have been others but all these years later i'm drawing a blank on them. (After all that was more than 30 years ago.)
This is NOT a hippie site, but a site for long haired guys to discuss topics HAIR-related.
Long haired guys are not necessarily "hippies". in fact most aren't.
While the majority of Hippies did have long hair during the 1960s, some Hippies actually had short hair including the girls!
also, to my knowledge this is not a music site and in my opinion much of that so-called music from the 1960s and 1970s is way OVER-rated especially stuff like Crosby, Stills, Nash and the Grateful Dead, who I can't stand!
not all long haired guys like 1960s music. not all long haired guys are into Metal. most Metal is noise to my ears. I prefer 1980s New Wave and Synth Pop to the sound of something which sounds like a freight train to my ears, but one thing I do like that I have common ground with these guys is my preference for longer hairstyles!
It is considered on topic to discuss what is longhair culture, though, per item 16 of the General FAQ. This is part of defining the culture of our social group, an endeavor that is welcomed by those preferring support over solitude in growing out their hair. And don't believe for a minute that longhairs are not a social group. You don't really believe all the crap thrown our way is because they are afraid of our hair, do you? They are scared to death of our culture.
Yeah, and I like that stuff. What I can't stand is disco. I avoid gay events like the plague because I can't stand the disco. I can be gay without listening to disco music, and you can be a longhair without spacing out on the awesome harmony of CSNY.
Therefore, your inability to groove on trippy cosmic out of sight music is not something to cut your hair over. Keep flyin' the freqk flag, but please, wear headphones. [wink]
Just kidding, man. Be yourself. THAT is a very strong component of longhair culture.
Bill
I have checked out some self-styled hippie communities online, but the weird thing is that there are a lot of people on them with short hair, LOL! That's OK, but where have all the hippies gone? Reminds me of a well-known song. If you can sing it or at least hum it you may possibly be one of us!
I would say I was a freak, meaning into the hippie culture but leading a relatively normal life, rather than, say, living in a commune or half way up a tree!
Music is a key part of me. I used to sing in a band, and although I no longer do, I couldn't live without music.