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Seeing as I am a rather avid FB user, I was rather surprised not finding a MLHH Facebook group. In case that is irrelevant with heving this great forum right here, I was thinking that it would be nice sharing our profiles here, so that we can get to know eachother better :)
I am Raul Lenesin on FB, feel free to send me a friend reauest!
How about you guys? :)
Raul,
I think the fact that there's no FB page for the MLHH speaks volumes. I must admit I'm not a big fan of FB in the first place, so I apologize if my take on this is less than objective. This board has been online for at least 12 years (that's when I first found it), and I'm pretty sure it was around 5 years before that. I think it's frustrating how internet is judged on FB, T, or other equally overrated and overused tool.
We've had this little piece of internet to be free of the judgmental people out there. I can't imagine having open discussions about hair without 90% of your other "friends" having something bad to say about it. I just don't see how it would work. This has been around for so long and it's so useful. It has helped so many people. If it's not broken don't fix it buddy. I totally understand that you meant well. But I wish we lived in a world where every internet thing would serve it's purpose. Now FB has taken over, I've seen businesses replace their websites with FB pages. I think it's insane.
I would totally add you as a friend but I don't use it really. I never even see FB mentioned around here. However I'm sure I speak for everyone when I said you should hang around and come here often. This is a great community.
Hi Giacco,
I have to second what you stated in your post as you've taken the words right out of my mouth.I find mlhh a nice escape from the commercialized rest of the internet.We have no sponsorships here and operate on donations.All the moderators are volunteers so we collect no salary.I do use FB but would hate to see the mlhh polluted by that site.I've had no problems making friends on just plain ole mlhh and have personally met many of them:)Anyway this is an interesting thread and will be fun seeing the responses from the other users.Long live mlhh! Cheers my friends:)
Mârk
Hairball
I think what you mentioned is very important. This is a really special place that way. Actually in every way. :)
If you do go with this idea i'll warn you now though...........
This site is extremely supportive of men with long hair.
That won't be the case on facebook, you'll get slammmed big time
for having long hair and told early and often to get a hair cut.
I saw that happen a few months ago when an artist friend of
mine on Facebook trimmed a few inches off is long hair. He has hair half way down his back and got told early and often to get
a haircut. The same thing came up last month when another
"friend" from college mentioned long hair.
MLHH is a very supportive environment for men with long hair,
Facebook is not and can get very nasty as i've found out several times already.
YMMV.
Hei YMMV,
I completely agree, and from experience as an ex-long haired guy, 99% of people are anything but supportive, even if they're good friends and family.
I would never use facebook for hair-status updates and such, that is what I've got THIS great place for! I was more leaning towards gathering our private facebook accounts in order to get to better know eachother, nothing more :)
YMMV = Your mileage may vary
Good to know ;)
Facebok is not relevant and this Board remains the best way for us.
I see no problem with this if its purpose is social and it doesn't take away from the discussion here. Personally, I deactivated my FB account finding it pointless and full of drama and nonsense. I use google+ and have found it much "smarter". I do like Raul's idea of getting to know each other better.
Meh.. I like doing stuff more ;)
Well, I don't really use my facebook that often, mainly to keep up with people I met in the Navy. I do think it could be useful for photo sharing purposes, as doing multiple photos on the board here is tedious at best. Otherwise, I think that MLHH serves its purpose pretty darn well.
I like both sites very much.
I sent you a friend request. I do feel facebook allows for greater interaction and getting to know more sides of a person but for long hair related topics, nothing beats MLHH!
I don't know about anyone else but I personally detest facebook.
i do use it but i'm not a fan of Facebook. Too big, it long
overran it's headlights as Paul Harvey would say.
I also very careful not to post private information on Facebook.
Too many security holes.
Others are more than welome to do it, I won't be one of them.
This site works out just fine for me.
Well okay, that's a slight exaggeration. I wouldn't actually die without Facebook. But the lack of it would have a huge impact on my life.
I think many people - particularly older people - do not understand what Facebook actually is. Facebook is a SOCIAL NETWORKING site. Yes, you CAN just use it to announce to the world that you are about to wash the dishes or that you have an enormous bogey up your nose - but you would be missing the main point.
Facebook keeps a group of family and friends in touch with each other. No need for mass emails. If you're off to Timbuktoo next month to visit Auntie Zelda, the whole family there will know to meet up. But Facebook really comes into its own when you are about to have an event - either an impromptu night with a couple of mates down the pub or a meticulously planned weekend clubbing and general mayhem with lots of friends. For a planned event all you do is create a FB page for the Event, describe it and give a place and time to meet.
That's partly why nearly all of my FB contacts ("friends") are people I have actually met in real life - face-to-face. We use FB to keep in touch and then meet up for real.
Facebook is also invaluable for professional updates, networking with colleagues, spreading news about upcoming gigs, club nights, happenings, whatever.
I seem to be fighting the main tide of opinion in this thread but let's keep sight of what Facebook actually is. Perhaps it's a generation gap thing but we are all in the 21st Century after all! ;)
However, that said, I will leave it to others to decide whether it is worthwhile supplementing the main MLHH site with a page on Facebook. This site seems to serve its purpose well enough without at present.
Damon
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I don't understand the animosity towards facebook either. I have gotten to know old friends again, met new people and have thoroughly enjoyed the experience. There's really no need to be paranoid about the site.
I don't think there needs to be a MLHH presence on facebook but I've enjoyed getting to know lots of members of MLHH better on facebook.
Nonsense the world worked perefctly well without Faceboopk and then people used to TALK to each other if they had anything to say.
We certainly do not need an MLHB presence on Facebook.
I dare say the world worked perfectly well without telephones, computers and television too - not to mention trains, cars and airplanes. And our distant ancestors even seem to have managed to get by without the wheel at one time. What's wrong with just dragging things around? We're getting soft!
Who needs all this modern progress huh? Bah! Humbug! :)
I did mention that a primary use of FB is as a networking tool - to organise meetings face-to-face and facilitate TALKING - not as a replacement for it. Talking is by no means dead. Indeed, since FB makes get-togethers so much easier, it can actually encourage the amount of talking we do.
But online conversation also has its uses. I should point out that none of us would be having this discussion now were it not for modern technology (pretending for a moment that the archaic MLHH is actually in the modern age and not stuck in a 1990s timewarp - bless it! :).
Damon
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As I keep saying "newer is not always better."
The nice thing about the MLHH is the people are supportive of men
who want to grow their hair long. You'll find that supportive nature sorely missing from facebook as i've found in past
encounters.
If your'e growing your hair long and want supportive environment
you won't find it on facebook. and they'll be downright nasty about it.
Agreed! The key to MLHH being such a pleasant environment for long-haired men is that it is superbly moderated. I'm not a MLHH Moderator but I suspect that there are quite a few negative posts that get stopped by the Moderators before they can appear on this site.
I believe there are ways of moderating minority groups on FB too if they are set up correctly but that would be a very poor substitute for MLHH.
Plus, although I gently rib the archaicness of MLHH, I actually find that is part of its charm! ;)
Damon
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...if you find it charming, you should have been around in the '80's when we had payphones ^_~ (1)... or the '90's when we used to lick postage stamps (2)... or the 2000's when landlines were the majority :p (3).....
On a similar note, people now-a-days say that email is too slow... what, too slow :o ??? I'd say it's a lot faster when back then it'd have to take a minute to place a collect call ;p (4)~
Anyways, I'm getting off topic >o> .....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payphone (1)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postage_stamp (2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landline (3)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collect_call (4)
http://blog.hmvh.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/FacebookFritzl.jpg (facebook)
I'm working on getting MLHH listed as an Ancient Monument! :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_monument
Damon
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I take exception to this.
One of the things we are trying to do in our civll war group
is to preserve alot of the monuments that were built many years
ago to honor the brave men who made the ultimate sacrifice in the civil war.
And then there are all the monuments to the men who died in numerous other wars.
For example back in September we had a ceremony at one of those
monuments. it's estimated it would cost 4100,000+ to repair the
monument. Many others are also in need of repair too.
Oops..........that should be $100,000.
The British term "Ancient Monument" has nothing inherently to do with commemorating fallen war heros. The term is applied to "an early historical structure or monument (e.g., an archaeological site) worthy of preservation and study due to archaeological or heritage interest". They range from prehistoric standing stones and burial mounds, through castles and abbeys, to 19th-century collieries and factories. The structure *may* be a memorial or the site *may* include graves but that is purely coincidental and has nothing to do with the term itself.
Please see the link in my previous post.
I hope that clears any confusion for American members. I used the term humourously and certainly didn't mean any offence.
Damon
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At 58 I was around for them.
;^_~ (1)... or the '90's when we used to lick postage stamps
I was also around for them.
;(2)... or the 2000's when landlines were the majority
I remember them too.
I find that between Facebook, Twitter, that the MLHH suits my
needs and tastes just fine. As I always say newer is not always
better. Besides when it comes to long hair on men it's not the
site or the technology that makss this site work, it's all the
supportive people behind it and the helpful suggestions/advice.
It's men whose prime reason for being here is to support and
encourage men to grow their hair long. And in order to do that
you don't need a fancy forum like Facebook, you need people whose main intent is to support and encourage men to grow their
hair long.
You miss the point entirely which is sadly typical of many who have become so dependant upon Facebook, Twitter and others.
There is absolutely no need to broadcast your movements in the manner that you espouse- why do you even suppose that your Auntie Zelda needs or want to know about what you are doing.
There is worse, using FB to "For a planned event all you do is create a FB page for the Event, describe it and give a place and time to meet." is the way in which you turn a private event into one where unwanted people turn up with dreadful consequences. Finally as to "Facebook is also invaluable for professional updates, networking with colleagues" is a complete nonsense, no self respecting professional person would place such matters into the public domain in this way.
I fear that you are of a generation who is using FB without a deal of thought and delivering Mark Zuckerberg the profits that he dreams off.
Now back to long hair....
A number of people discovered this the hard way.......they
adertise it on Facebook/Twitter and the next thing they knew
is 2,000 people descended on the house, trashed the place,
got the house raided by the police and lots of people got arrested.
Finally as to "Facebook is also invaluable for professional updates, networking with colleagues" is a complete nonsense, no self respecting professional person would place such matters into the public domain in this way.
I would mention that employers will look at your on line profile,
including facebook/twitter/etc. And they'll see those photos
of you getting plastered out of your skull and dancing naked
on the corner. And a number of employers will ask for your
social networking passwords. (The legality of this is being hotly debated.) As far as social networking for your career/
employment, that is what sites like Linkedin are for, not facebook or twitter.
His profits are rapidly going down the drain......did you see
what happened to the stock price for Facebook after initial
public offering? Facebook needs a way to make money and
people like me will delete our accounts when that happens.
I fear that you have little knowledge of how FB works. It is far more sophisticated than you give it credit for, and nothing needs to be broadcast to the general public if the user chooses for it not to be. There are a few highly publicised cases of users (mostly kids) who did not know how to use FB correctly but is FB to blame for that? Most road accidents are the fault of the drivers. Should we blame the vehicles? There is an old acronym that perhaps should apply to FB users as well as drivers: RTFM.
I could refute your misconceptions about FB in detail but explaining how to set privacy for events and limit invitations, provide links to documents on password-restricted sites, etc., etc. would continue this thread far off-topic so I'll leave it there. ;)
Damon
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I know exactly how Facebook works. You can be very careful what
you post but hava a friend who isn't careful.
;There are a few highly publicised cases of users (mostly kids) who did not know how to use FB correctly but is FB to blame for that? Most road accidents are the fault of the drivers. Should we blame the vehicles? There is an old acronym that perhaps should apply to FB users as well as drivers: RTFM.
Yes they are to blame. The programming for Facebook is very sloppy, and the privacy settings are very badly implemented. Often you hear about major security flaws.
As I said before Facebook was designed by Zuckerberg for his friends at Harvard. Now that it is 150,000 million users it's too big for what it was designed for.
Forget about setting privacy settings in facebook. All too often those privacy settings are meaningless with all the security holes.
Too bad there's not a like button here. ;-) For all the bad things people might say about FB, I still find it useful and would hate to do without it. It's not unlike a power tool, there's a safe way and a unsafe way to use it, so hopefully you've RTFM. Those that see it as big and scary usually haven't bothered to RTFM.
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming. ;-)
--Dale
RTFM = Read The F**king Manual
First of all i've never seen a manual for facebook. And you'll
probably never see one since they change things so often.
The only manuals i've seen for facebook are some independent
books written but i've never seen an official "facebook" manual.
The problem here is that you are now caught by the obsession/dependency which Facebook and its ilk create amongst some users.
Privacy settings have nothing whatever to do with the matter, things can be hidden but it is the manifest urge to publish in the first place that is so troubling about it and then to be judged by the reaction to the postings and the volume of that reaction.
They can be hidden but all too often flaws in the system can
expose those things you hide. Also all those apps on
facebook, they have tokens that allow your private information to
be viewed. There have also been a ton of security breaches on facebook.
As someone who has used computers since the early 70s when I learned Fortran for my engineering class I know exactly what
Facebook is...........it's s social netowrking site that Zuckerberg
created for his friends at Harvard. Fast forward to now and it
has 150 million users and has long since overrun it's headlights.
It is now too big, has too many flaws/glitches/security breaches/
etc. I hate facebook, the only reason i'm on it is because a number of my friends are.
Too many people put too much private information on facebook and
then are victimized when the sysytem gets hacked.
Also there are insurance companies that are charging facebook/
twitter users more because these users post their home address,
phone number, etc. on their profile and then announce to the world they won't be home tonight because they are going
to x concert. Facebook and twitter are becoming a burglers best
friend.
So yes at the ripe old of 58 I know exactly what facebook is.
It's an excuse to post on faceebook all the useless junk
you'd be slammed for posting to email because you didn't check
to see if it is an internet legend that was proven false many years ago.
/rant off
Well my profile is in my avatar/picture of my MLHH user, feel free to send me a friend request, just let me know who you are from MLHH :)
While I would welcome a FB group as an extension of this message board, I don't see it officially happening. So unless one of us starts it ourselves, it's not going to happen.
That said, there's a lot of longhair groups on FB that you can join. Most are not support groups like this board, but you do get a to meet a lot of people who either are long haired or like long hair on guys.
And as for sharing profiles, my FB page is often in my sig, so see below and add me if you wish. :-)
--Dale
Hi Raul,
As of now, I have "held off" on joining FB, although a number of people have encougared me to do so.
My feeling is that if I did join, I would post very little there. However, if I take the plunge, I would be happy to add you as a friend there.
David
Hey Raul,
Great idea, but as for me I am not a facebook member nor do I intend to join. I quit facebook the moment I started getting lots of spam mail and some of my email accounts were being hacked to use to send my friends spam mail.
good luck though.
Love it or hate it, Facebook is clearly here to stay. However, I feel as though bringing the MLHH into FB Land would somehow detract from this board's endearing uniqueness, and could even ultimately find it falling largely into disuse.
I say keep the MLHH off of Facebook, but feel free to connect there, with the people you meet here.
--Val
Just use facebook as an add on to this forum, to get to know the people on here even better.
Keep the MLHH the way it is, without a facebook fan page.
I am on FB under my given name.(Jason Wilson) Contact me as you will. However, I really see no need for MLHH to have a presence on FB. I feel it may be more a liability than an asset. Honestly, I have no qualms either way, However, the assets and liabilities should be weighed before doing so.
Hey again everybody!
I was quite surprised seeing the animosity and negative feedback this thread has gathered during the day, even though I was not able to respond to each and every one of you, thanks to work and family obligations.
What I want to make perfectly clear, is that I never wanted to talk as much about creating a unique MLHH page on facebook for discussion, as much as us sharing our names in order to get a better network of friends who are also interested in growing/having long hair as men, and for being able to better get to know each other, through day to day updates, pictures and so on.
I completely understand the feeling this evokes in some of you more veteran members here, where as this young kid comes here and would suggest routing traffic and discussion away from this wonderful board and on to the almighty evil and commercialized facebook, but I again want to stress out that was not my intention, and I hope that is clear enough.
I think this place is great as it is, and even if I would definitely agree to some degree of advertizing (which call most if not all be blocked by a good ad-blocker anyways) in order to get a real forum, with logging in, user names and pictures and so on... it's definitely charming with his simplicity and ease of use, and the members who come back here day (and year) in and out, even after having cut off the long hair, makes this a wonderful and unique place. So again, no offense ment here :)
With that said, I agree with Damon's explanation to a great degree, in that facebook is what one makes of it, and at least for me, having lived in 3 different countries and having family and friends in countless countries, facebook is a GEM, nothing less. It enables me to have contact immediately and live with friends form high school, my mother back in Israel, friends from the Israeli Defence Force, my grandparents in Romania, friends all over Norway, Sweden, America.. you name it! So yeah, in my eyes, it's an extremely valuable tool for keeping in touch! And that was also my initial wish by starting this thread- getting to know some of YOU here better!
Then again, I understand that some, if not most, of you, do not like the idea, so I suppose we start some sort of OFF TOPIC threads here in order to better learn to know eachother, if the server traffic and load allows, of course :)
But now I'm babbling...
Eiether way, thanks to those 4-5 who sent me their friend requests, and sorry for using norwegian in some status updates.. at least the growing hair is international ;)
Keep on growing and flowing!
Raul.
IMHO the important point to bear in mind here is MLHH is an extremely supportive environment for those men who want to grow their hair long.
On facebook that will go right out the window. I'vc come accross
too many facebook posts critical of men who grow their hair long.
You may choose your friends on Facebook carefully but you'll
get negative comments from the friends of those friends.
That has been my experience with Facebook. YMMV.
True, many people are overly critical of long haired men, but I've found that it can be countered with a good dose of attitude. "Screw you, I'm awesome!" seems to shut the majority of people up. On the occasion that it fails, well, that's when it's "eye for an eye" time.
The following conversation actually happened:
She: "When are you going to cut your hair? It's so disgusting, you look like a shaggy dog!"
Me: "When are you going to lose some weight? It's so disgusting, you look like a hippo."
She: "How could you say that?"
Me: "What? I thought we were insulting each other."
It may be a low blow, but returning insults in like kind often makes people realize how incredibly rude they've been. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but no one ever said you had to take it lying down.
Awesome reply. Just awesome.
True, you can go that route, for those who criticize you, but I would not like to see mlhh degenerate to that level.That's why I feel it's best to keep the separation between FB and mlhh at a safe distance.The trolls on FB must run in the millions!Cheers
Mârk
MLHH was here long before FaceBook. It will be here long after. MLHH is part of Internet culture before FB. If you want to use your real name here, it's because you WANT to use your real name here. People are on MLHH because they're interested in long hair on men, not because of who we randomly went to school with. MLHH has never spammed me or aggregated my data for commercial purposes. It never will.
If you want to create longhair groups on FB, you're free to do that and people have done it. If you want to share your FB profiles here on MLHH of course that's fine; but let's not allow FB to swallow MLHH. It's important for it to remain separate.
And yes, you managed to draw out a longtime member who mostly lurks these days! It's THAT important.
Most of my friends and family are on FB. I have added many people I know from various places online as well, but I have a hard time matching up their identities on each forum, and so get very confused about who they are. And that isn't the only problem.
I have a minor problem of a sort in that lots of gay men try to friend me on FB. They all seem to be longhairs, and most of them seem to be friends of guys on here, where I know there is a fair amount of overlap in membership with the board for gay longhaired men.
Don't misunderstand me. I have friends on this board who are gay. I would certainly like to count Bill Choissier and Ken in SF as friends, for example.
As a matter of fact my own son is gay (and has long hair). Don't mention this on FB, please, because his grandparents are on there too and they don't know. Well, they know he has long hair, LOL! He is on FB under a pseudonym and refuses to friend any family except his sister, which I have to admit makes a certain amount of sense,
It's more like an example of the phenomenon of friends of friends asking to friend you on FB, when they don't even know you atall, online or off. If you accept every friend request pretty soon you end up with more 'friends' that you don't know than ones you do. And with them using different names, a fair number of friends that you don't actually know whether you know them or not!
I friended large numbers of people from a well known long hair forum where most of the members are women, and didn't have the heart to 'unfriend' any of them, so I had to edit my FB newsfeed to severely limit posts about the endless ways that they put their hair up, LOL! Yes, I know some of you would read those, but I'd rather read the ones from my family and my old school friends. I left in the ones that post about kitties and bunnies all the time, but I have a soft spot for small furry animals.
I also removed a couple of guys from my FB newsfeed because they post pictures of semi-naked men all the time. Not my thing, but nobody seems to post pics of half dressed women, which would be more appealing to me, although I suppose if they did I might have to worry about other people looking at my screen. Note that I didn't unfriend these guys, but if they did post something I actually wanted to read I wouldn't see that either.
I have friended a few of you guys on FB, and am not averse to friending more. OTOH, it is hard to follow the dual identities, except for a few people that I converse with more often. So, if we have exchanged conversation here, and if you tell me what your user name is here when you send the friend request, then I will probably accept. Otherwise, I will probably be left wondering who the h*ll is that! LOL!
Elektros, aka Alun Palmer (in RL and on FB)
I'm on facebook, but I don't feel any need to connect that circle of acquaintances with MLHH...or any of the other forums or email lists I am a member of. Rarely, someone from a forum or list will become personally connected enough that FB or some other social networking site will become another area for us to interact...or even more rarely, IRL!
Oh, Ive seen you meet in RL with people you know online, but I've only seen it online, LOL! (and neither here nor on FB) That's because you're on the left coast, of course. Otherwise I might show up too.
If you make it out here, definitely speak up!
I got the above/below reply when I announced to FB that I was going to be growing my hair out.
As demonstrated, she REALLY doesn't like anything more than a Bieber cut...
Needless to say, we barely talk at all anymore, compared to actually being somewhat close beforehand.
As much as I'm particularly sore about that, such a message only exemplifies the type of backlash that you will get on Facebook. People might be nice in real life, but they will potentially turn into absolute monsters once they're behind the screen.
I have short hair now (stupid, stupid school rules), but people still are the same to me. Once a longhair, always a longhair?
If you guys want, you can add me on FB: facebook.com/ime1729
Wow, seriously? I mean, scissors I get, but a knife? Who the hell cuts hair with a knife? That's going past hair hatred (hairtred?) and moving straight into psychotic killer territory.
Rejected alliterative phrases:
Lock loathing
Coiffure contempt
'Do disgust
Fro frenzy
Whats worse is 6 people like this ;(
I noticed that scary detail too.
Hi .mkl,
I am very dismayed to hear of this. You have certainly opened my eyes about FB. I shall think seriously about FB from now on. I hope you can grow your nice hair out one day. Please take care of yourself and stay safe my friend.
Ted
That is really scary something I was warning about on Facebook.
Absolutely.
That is downright disturbing, on a "serial psycho killers" sorta way! it makes me wonder who do some of you people really have as "friends" on facebook...
Either way, I have also officialy made my claim of growing my hair long on facebook a few months ago, to a couple of likes, and 5-6 negative comments from my mother in law and some colleagues, so I've learned to keep it quiet. Once it's there, there's nothing more to discuss, is the way I see it :)
I gather from one of your previous posts that this FB comment was nothing more than an alarming turn-of-phrase and that she was jokingly referring to using the knife on your hair, not really on you. It was a silly and thoughtless thing to say though and it sounds as if you are much better off without her as a friend.
FB is a megaphone. Do not say anything on FB that you would not feel equally comfortable announcing to a large group of your friends and acquaintances in real life. Common sense applies to either situation. And be prepared to face negative comments if you do choose to announce something.
That's the way people are - on FB or in real life. I don't see the whole world holding hands round a campfire and singing Kumbaya anytime soon. Perhaps the world would be kinda dull if we did. ;)
Yes, people do tend to feel far more brash typing over the internet than they do talking face-to-face. But either way, they *think* the same and sometimes it's better to know what people are really thinking rather than see only their false niceness. It can hurt but at least you know the truth and where you stand.
Backlash is part of life. The only reason we don't see it on MLHH is because this site is carefully moderated. Minority groups on FB can be moderated by admins too but I imagine it is far more difficult (more a case of deleting a negative comment AFTER it has already appeared rather than preventing it from appearing at all). That said, I gather some minority groups on FB function well enough, with little outside interference.
Ultimately, I personally regard MLHH as a gem. I would be utterly devastated if it ever moved home to FB but Raul never suggested that. I think there is some merit in Raul's suggestion that a FB page be created not as a replacement but as a supplement - not for discussions but merely to facilitate exchanging FB usernames for those who wish to do so. Personally, I'm happy to do without and simply establish contacts through MLHH itself - but it is kinda scary to see the sheer terror and animosity that the mere mention of FB provokes on this discussion board.
FB is really not a big bad bogeyman, folks. The 21st Century is quite fun once you get to know it. It's okay ... really it is. ;)
BTW, your school rules totally suck, mkl! You have my sympathy having to put up with such narrow-minded stupidity.
Damon
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Actually it is. It's an extremely poorly designed and
implemented program. It was designed by Zuckerberg for
his friends at harvard. It was not designed for 150
million users.
;The 21st Century is quite fun once you get to know it. It's okay ... really it is. ;)
The 21st century has lots of great things about it. As someone
who started using computers in 1973 I have to say Facebook is not
one of them. It is a very flawed program.
Thanks! Of course, it was particularly obvious that I was growing my hair out, since I had to spend 14 hours at school every single day at that point in time for a club. There's a place and time for everything -- Facebook for frivolous discussions, this site for hair related discussions, and other specialist forums for different topics. One size fits all is truly one size fits none.
This woman sounds like a whack job, the tone of her message sounded very thertening, be careful and continue to grow your hair.
Tom(Hairboy)
And this is why I decided not to announce to anyone that I was going to grow my hair out. I just stopped cutting it and little by little people started to notice. And by that point most people could tell that I was serious about it and a lot of people have actually given nice comments on it.
There's really no point in announcing to the world that you're growing your hair out. That's just asking for jokes and criticisms.
I wouldn't think of this as a reflection of facebook in general but more a reflection of certain people and the way our society still feels about men with long hair.
I find it funny/sad every time I see a comment like "The 60's are over. Get a haircut hippie!"
Yeah... So we're all supposed to look exactly the same huh??
Steve
Yeah the 60s are over. I started growing my hair long in 1964.
Fast forward to 2013 and my hair is still long. So yeah the 60s
are over, so are the 70s 80s 90s and 2000s. And this long haired hippie still has long hair. And this hippie will have long hair
until the day he dies.
Of course if you had told this hippie that he would be in an organization honoring the civil war i'd have said you were crazy.
Yet I am. Go figure.
Well, if nothing else this post stirred up a hornet's nest!
Also perhaps exposed some generational gaps.
Its been very entertaining watching from the sidelines.
Sure has. Nothing like what I expected, but it's good to know what even though we have our differences, we still are a tight and supportive community, which is really the most important thing to conclude here :)
Not a generational gap, for me it's having used computers and
been alive enough years to be aware of many of the pitfalls
of a medium like Facebook. Call it life experience + computer experience.
Too many people misuse the medium, doing things like posting their
home address/phone number on social media and then tell the world
they won't be home, they're going to attend x concert tonight.
A robbers dream come true.
Also your private information on facebook isn't going to stay private no matter what your settings are.
Nothing new about that problem. As a radio ham I learnt quickly never to announce on air that I'm going on a trip, for the same reason. That was long before we even had the Internet.
Using mostly real names on FB is a relatively new thing for the Net, though. Pseudonyms predominated pretty much up to that point.
That actually makes it more like ham radio. Sure, we use callsigns, but you can look up the names and addresses fairly easily. It wasn't even that hard when the records were all on paper.
I always wanted to get my ham radio license but hated the idea of learning morse code.