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Hey everyone, probably wasting mine/your time, but i got nothing better to do. =) And you clicked on the link, so you obviously don't either.. Anyway, i tried growing out my hair once last year, but i always kept the sides and back shorter, and it was all bleached, and yach it looked terrible after a while, just some glorified bowl-cut, so i hacked that off (ironically when i took notice of a certain girl.. lol.) Anyway, i decided to go for it again, and this time things are going much better.. it's only been a few months, but im loving the awkward stage this time.. i decided to leave everything at the same length, and i just love the way the hair flips around in the back.. Im thinking of just sticking with a length somewhere in the awkward stage and staying there.. Every girlfriend, and every girl for that matter that i've asked thinks that long hair on guys doesn't look good.. i disagree.. but i was thinking of reaching some kind of a medium.. maybe 5 inches or so. what do you guys think?
Your hair has a nice shiny texture.
And because of the way your hair is cut,
it should look great as you grow it toward your Goal...
Good Luck!
lol, funny you say that, because actually for the past 2-3 years i've just been cutting my hair myself.. I got sick of the dissapointments everytime i went in to a barbor and payed $20. They never seemed to get it right, and always seemed to mess something up.. I love being able to cut my own hair, saves money, and i can only blame the mistakes on myself. Of course, another way around that problem is to just not cut your hair at all, as im sure a lot of you have found. =)
I think your hair will look great long or short, you have a face that would suit any length. Speaking about my tastes in mens hair, I like any length, just as long as its clean and healthy.
Bye for now
Kitty (UK)
Well, I'm afraid that 5" long is not "long hair" by anyone's definition (except maybe the armed services). May I suggest a loftier goal?
I think that others said it well before when they told you that growing your hair just to ATTEMPT to impress girls is a particularly poor decision that will do very little for your own self-esteem. You may be able to get their attention but you can't make people like you, they will or they won't in their own time and if it looks as if you are trying too hard then that is a great way to get people to avoid you.
(I don't consider this discussion board to be a particular waste of time, this is why I clicked your post)
Wow bud, uh, take it easy there.. I never said anything, was just an attempt to impress anyone.. I like my hair longer, and i think it should look fine at a medium length, that's all i was saying. I really don't see how you gathered that growing my hair out is an attempt to impress anyone. I just dont want it to be something that's a turnoff for a large amount of women. That's all i was stating.
And i never at all stated that this board itself is a waste of time, i thought that my post might be, becuase nothing i said is of any real importance to anyone but myself.
Dont be so defensive and don't jump to conclusions so easily! I was just attempting to share my thoughts with some people. Take it easy, bro.
No offense but from your post it also seems to me that you are growing your hair to impress girls, maybe that's not what you meant but it sure did look like it. Either way do whatever you want to do, if you really want to keep it in the awkward stage, have fun. If you want it long.. have fun! Just do whatever makes you happy
From my experience, girls like guys with SHORT hair, is what i was saying, so i dont see how growing out my hair is an act that's supposed to impress them? Maybe i just chose the wrong words to express myself.
I'm not sure what the little argument here is about. You look like you're in high school or college. I'm right there with you. We've gotta do all we can to impress girls. It's survival of the fittest. Like animals doing their little mating dances. You've never run up to the birds in your back yard and yelled at them for dancing around so they can get lucky, have you? Basically it goes like this: nearly every guy in every high school is an ass. But it's always these guys that get the girls. Thereby ruining it for the rest of us. So now, we're stuck with this stereotype, and we've got to do whatever we can to stand out and get girls to give us a chance. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. (Unless you're me, and then you can't do anything right with that.) You kinda got jumped on for that, and the thing about "medium-length" hair. I think that type of hair looks awesome. But most of the people here wouldn't consider it long hair. But unless you wanna start your own message board, this is the best place to be posting.
So what have we learned today?
That's right, absolutely nothing.
And don't worry about Hair Religion. Between you and me (and anyone else that reads this) he seems to get mad at people a lot.
Please back up your accusation.
Dude, I'm HAPPY Puppy. Happy Puppies don't like starting things like this. (Although I guess I already started it.) It just seems like sometimes people come here for advice, and you pull a sort of long-hair dominance, 'cause you've been long for so ... uh - long. It seems like you think your views are the only right ones to hold.
But anyways, I have neither the time nor desire to debate this. Sorry. We can still be friends, right? In that sort of way that you're gonna hate me forever, but pretend not to mind.
I would now like to concede my arguments to Slipknot. He can speak for me now. He seems to be doing a pretty good job.
Anyways, don't hate me forever. And Slipknot, please don't screw me over.
...And Slipknot, please don't screw me over.
Now why would I do that? I don't want to screw anyone over. I just hate arrogance... probably because I'm so damn arrogant myself! hehehe. :)
Granted, some people DESERVE a big ol' dose of attitude, but not EVERYONE, and it seems like the ones with the biggest attitudes and largest buckets of arrogance are the ones who deny they have any at all.
Good call. I didn't mean that you'd screw me over intentionally. Just that since I was handing over my right to argue to you, that you'd kinda be speaking for me. I like what you've done so far. But technically, since you are speaking for me, you could get on and be like HappyPuppy's a big stinkhead, and I wouldn't be able to defend myself, since you're supposedly saying what I'm saying. It'd be like trying to argue with myself. (Not that I don't do so anyhow.) But yeah. Keep working at the little Hair Religion thing. Or don't, it's not really up to me.
I just hate arrogance... probably because I'm so damn arrogant myself! hehehe. :)
Gee, you accuse me of that as though it were a horrible thing...and then to find out that you consider yourself to be "damn arrogant".
Hipocracy of an interesting sort.
Broad assumptions don't wash too well. They are an attempt to say "in any case I'm right"...hey, isn't that arrogance?
What you seem to see is in your imagination. You can look at the same sentence with either a happy face or a scowling face. Doesn't make either so. I prefer to be on good terms with people here but if you say you want that but in the next breath say how much you like what Slipknot is doing by making baseless assumptions and incorrect accusations then I have to wonder what your real face is.
As I have responded to other bashes, the mention of some of us thinking that we are the only true longhairs or that only our views are right is a textbook example (most common flame) of an incorrect assumption or malicious character attack that we tend to get here. I think that this has more to do with people's own insecurities about their own hair length (specifically hair length because it's a longhair board). I think that is must be related somehow to competition but it's not what you are hearing the accused say.
The goal on a longhair board is longhair, is it not? Those of us who have long hair are attemping to help others who come here to achieve that goal. That's it, that is why I'm here.
I have no hate for anyone here but I will put you straight if you attack my posts for no good reason.
I agree. Male PMS maybe?
You put up too and show where I displayed the emotion of anger (getting mad). Be prepared to back up your words with relevant quotes from my past posts.
I'll tell you that I've been attacked by young teens on this board for no apparent reason other than their own insecurity. They are ALWAYS unable to follow up on their bold statements and mischaracterizations. Some of their odd posts have actually displayed anger but show me where I respond with something other than calm thought out logical replies. I'll wager that you can't.
Would anger ever be appropriate in a post/response? If so give an example and tell us all if that is something that you imagine that I could have done appropriately.
There seems to be an undercurrent of several kids on this board who think that anyone who doesn't stroke them is a "big meanie". Why? You may be at home viewing this board but this board extends out into the big bad world.
There is but one thing that we do on this board and that is to communicate by typing words. Those words have relevance and are important to this board. Clear thoughts are important because you actually have time to work them out before posting them and the words you type will be the representation of those thoughts. You will also be communicating with many different types of people and people who are older than you. Everyone will be able to read your posts (whispering won't work). If nothing else, many people who frequent these kind of online boards learn better communication skills. Unfortunately, many don't and use these boards to play hit and run, hiding behind the mask that the internet gives them.
I'm a straight shooter and I call them as I see them (not as I imagine them). If that seems to you to be a bad thing then that is a problem that you will have to deal with all by yourself (maybe some of your buddies will stroke you).
I suppose that if you believe in male pre-minstrel syndrome then you also believe that the shorthair post that started this thread is somehow relevant to a longhair board and meets the guidelines listed in the FAQ.
...You put up too and show where I displayed the emotion of anger (getting mad).
I never said you "got mad". So, show ME where I said THAT, if you wanna play this game. (maybe a bit of guilty feelings on your part here?)
...There seems to be an undercurrent of several kids on this board who think that anyone who doesn't stroke them is a "big meanie".
No, I just think your replies are dripping with sarcasm.
...Clear thoughts are important because you actually have time to work them out before posting them and the words you type will be the representation of those thoughts.
Very true, so if you're thinking clearly, as you imply you are, why do your reply's seem to represent someone who is so arrogant and confrontational?
...I suppose that if you believe in male pre-minstrel syndrome then you also believe that the shorthair post that started this thread is somehow relevant to a longhair board and meets the guidelines listed in the FAQ.
No. I don't. But YOU'RE the one who responded to it as well as a few others, so it seems you are saying YOU can respond to irrelevant posts, but the rest of us can't?
lot.
Slipknot:
"I agree. Male PMS maybe?"
So you agree that I get mad at people a lot? By agreeing you are saying that I "get mad"...a lot. Your statement.
"No, I just think your replies are dripping with sarcasm."
And when I do, which is not always, it is deserved. Read my past replies and see for yourself.
"Very true, so if you're thinking clearly, as you imply you are, why do your reply's seem to represent someone who is so arrogant
and confrontational?"
Where do I show arrogance? Examples please. What is your definition of arrogance? There is an appropriate time for confrontation don't you agree? If someone calls me a liar and I didn't lie then I am going to take them to task...of course (imagine other examples). Some fear confrontation so much they let people walk all over them. Some are so confrontational they walk in here and call longhairs names. I wish to help maintain the integrity of this board and confrontation can be a part of that from time to time.
"No. I don't. But YOU'RE the one who responded to it as well as a few others, so it seems you are saying YOU can respond to
irrelevant posts, but the rest of us can't? "
I know I responded to it, it was posted here to be responded to.
I said that I can respond to irrelevant posts but the rest of you can't? Where? You better back that one up. Saying a post isn't relevant to the subject of the board isn't the same as saying that I can respond but you can't. Obivously everyone here can respond to whatever they wish.
Okay, examples:
1)How many women do you plan to date or screw at once anyway?
2)Don't make me the ogre for calling you on what you posted, it's not my fault you typed those words.
3)If that seems to you to be a bad thing then that is a problem that you will have to deal with all by yourself (maybe some of your buddies will stroke you).
Definition:
\Ar"ro*gance\, n.
a. making undue claims in an overbearing manner; or which exalts the worth or importance of the person to an undue degree; proud contempt of others; lordliness; haughtiness; self-assumption; presumption.
b. overbearing pride evidenced by a superior manner toward inferiors
c. The state or quality of being arrogant; overbearing pride.
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition, Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
(you may want to take particular notice of line 'b', sixth and seventh words)
Some guys want to date that perfect girl. Some guys want to screw that perfect girl... and her friends. I don't know what his intentions are (thus the options) but he seemed VERY interested in meeting girls for something (very normal, don't jump on me for that). HappyPuppy echoed this intense drive for the ladies in his response too. How is that showing arrogance on my part? I suppose the third & fourth options would be to marry them or ignore them but that would take the first and/or second to get to know them first. Arrogance in this context, in your defintion, would be trying to get someone to see that pleasing everyone else is a futile exercise? Don't forget that others told him this before.
And that the words he typed makes ME arrogant how? By responding to his post? Was I not supposed to do that? Is this a private board or something? Like I told "OttawaMale" (hit & run poster), if you post something strange then expect a) no response or b) responses that may not be very serious and even critical (depending on what you have written).
If being a straight shooter is being arrogant to you and you are criticizing me for being arrogant then you view straight shooters as being a bad thing? Did I get that right from what you said? If that is the case then that's sad. Most people have to learn to deal with certain issues particular to themselves, no one else can do that for them. But sometimes they have a group of friends that stroke their ego so they don't have to deal with it. And knowing this makes me arrogant?
I asked for YOUR definition because you are associating things with arrogance that have no ties to the definition of arrogance; such as asking questions, taking a position, finding fault with someone's logic, trying to keep the board on topic, answering bogus characterizations, giving advice.
Glad you have a dictionary though. (Oops, that's sarcastic, right? Aargh, did it again.)
"Superior manner" would be like this: "You are just a short hair and I'm a real longhair...I know this because I'm always right and you can only be wrong because you have a different view." (Haughty would be similiar).
No where can you see me saying this. Again, someone trying to use words that have no relevance or they don't know how to use.
You are accusing me of sh$# that doesn't add up.
Wow guys, i didn't expect to start such conflict between you all, but i gotta say, im happy to see a few people back me up, i started to think maybe this board had changed, but glad to see the majority of the people here are still pretty civil.
Im not gonna post again on this thread, becuase frankly, it's going nowhere, but i will say this to Hair Religion:
Is it me, or did my original post not express a desire to grow my hair long, only mentioning to possibility of not growing it to what you define "longhair"? I beleive so. All i wanted was opinions.
And as to one of your earlier questions, no i am not looking for a long term relationship right now, so i need to stay on my toes as far as meeting and attracting various women. So yes, how the majority of women will perceive me is of relative importance.
It seems to me like you use your long hair as an excuse to act better than other people. It's just hair, and it seems to me like you're discriminating my post, or me for that matter by refering to it as a "shorthair first post" or something of that matter. I was just looking for people's opinions, and to those that gave them to me: thanks! =) I'm just going to let it grow and see what happens!
anyway, take it easy hair religion, dont be so critical of everyone else. It's just hair.
I would be included in that majority as I help those looking for hair help, participate in discussions, don't flame people without a reason in their post and certainly don't go around attacking people and making baseless accusations and character misrepresentations.
You did express a desire to grow your hair a little more and you are correct, that is not long hair, but not just by my definition.
Then make sure you dress well, act older than you may be, drive a nice car, have a great job and a willingness to spend lots of money, keep your hair short (or semi-long if you are a rock star) and tell them whatever they want to hear. Works wonder for lots of guys. Oh, yea, your religion matters too but that may depend on the community you are in. Muslims make up the largest numbers of people. I would suggest becoming a Moslem.
See where this way of thinking leads? I'd hate to see you do some things the hard way. There are a lot of people here who have experience along those lines, it's not just coming from me.
Not so. Your perception is mistaken. I have told others that it's just hair and was jumped on then. Please go back a ways and repeat to those folks what you just said. I realize that some people intentions for their posts don't actually get put down in the type, I hope that by calling attention to it they will take a few more seconds before hitting that post button. I mean, what else do we have to go by but what you have written?
Again, grow it cut it, I don't care but do it because you want to and not because others MAY like it better. Sure you can interview people to see what they like but at the same time you may find people who like what you already have. Out of 6 billion people in the world I am sure that you can find more than enough who would date you or just have sex with you. They don't tend to fall out of the sky though (that one is from my own experience).
I don't think that I am critical in any sort of a non-constructive manner. You may notice that a few people are very critical of me but most people on this board somehow don't have any problems with me.
Mostly I try to give good advice from my own experience but there are times when patches of these threads get rolling past a few posts but usually in an attempt to battle someone who has a beef with me for reasons I don't know. They usually try to incorrectly refer to past posts and bring up some festering problem they had with them. Often it's just they way they imagined me saying it as they read it.
Thanks for the postive post hair religion.. You bring up some good points. I figure that's enough for this thread =)
Justin
Now THAT was a really nice post.
Why couldn't you have been this way when you first answered him? You probably don't realize it, but you come accross as confrontational and arrogant to alot of people. I'm sorry for any 'attitude' I have given you, and I KNOW I have given you some. But I hate people like me, if you know what I mean. I try real hard to control my bad attitude and I guess I figure everyone else should too, and when I perceive someone isn't, my attitude comes shining through!
Sorry. Let's move on.
Sure.
Don't worry, I won't be waiting to pounce on any of your future posts, I go post by post and the only thing I know about you is what you put here so if your posts don't rip on me then I'm cool with you (I say this because I seem to remember someone named otto saying he would take me to task in my future posts but I haven't seen him again). Grudges are pointless.
We have to move on anyway, we have already reached the right side of the screen! ; )
I think this calls for a cyber-group-hug.
Glad to see you two could work this out. I feel like we've worked out a little tension here, and gotten to see things from another point of view. (But that's just my overly-romantic opinion.) I understand where you're both coming from, and I'll put a little more thought into what I post from now on. Hair Religion, I've got nothing against you, and I hope that I haven't done anything to make you too mad at me. (Plus you kinda look like you might work for the govt. Maybe the CIA or something. I really wouldn't wanna cheese you off then.)
Since I'm the one who really started all this, I'm just gonna tuck my tail between my legs and scamper off into the corner for a while.
On a completely unrelated note, I think I just saw a UFO.
>"Plus you kinda look like you might work for the govt. Maybe the CIA or something."
I never heard that one before! Kind of thought they wouldn't have anything to do with me having long hair and all.
Maybe it's time for a longhaired Bond movie, eh?
Slipknot:
"No. I don't. But YOU'RE the one who responded to it as well as a few others, so it seems you are saying YOU can respond to irrelevant posts, but the rest of us can't?"
Me:
"I know I responded to it, it was posted here to be responded to.
I said that I can respond to irrelevant posts but the rest of you can't? Where? You better back that one up. Saying a post isn't
relevant to the subject of the board isn't the same as saying that I can respond but you can't. Obivously everyone here can
respond to whatever they wish."
Now:
Did you come up with something to back that up yet?
lol i used to think that to, i thought he got mad at me once a LONG time ago (i was using a different name i think).. i don't even remember what it was about but I do remember a guy name HairReligion being the "mean guy"... i had completely forgotten about that, anyway I agree with him on this one. (And btw. HairReligion i no longer thing you are a "mean guy".. you probably dont even know what im talking about)
Thanks for saying so, I am not a mean person and don't post mean things. I actually go back over my text to make sure that I am not being "mean" in any unprovoked way. Some people may hold an unclear definition of what "mean" means and the black and white of typed text can leave the realm of emotion open to the imagination. If someone slams me or the board I would consider slamming them back (that would be justified in my mind) but if I remember correctly I tend call attention to their gaps in logic (much more effective as they then have to think about what they said).
I enjoy posting here and I try to make my comments count.
(Your right SixStringThing, I don't remember getting "mad" at you).
You said:
"Hey everyone, probably wasting mine/your time, but i got nothing better to do. =) And you clicked on the link, so you obviously
don't either.. "
Now you say:
"And i never at all stated that this board itself is a waste of time..."
"I was just attempting to share my thoughts with some people."
I thought you said you were just wasting your/our time? Your post is a part of this board (obivously). Don't make me the ogre for calling you on what you posted, it's not my fault you typed those words.
"I really don't see how you gathered that growing my hair out is an
attempt to impress anyone."
That an easy one, first you mentioned your attempt to impress before, then said what most girls prefer, then in the same sentence said that even though it wasn't just for the girls you would settle for a "medium" inferring that a compromise was in order so as to not kill all chances with the ladies (as if it would actually be that way...haven't you read the stories here of attention lavished on longhairs?). How many women do you plan to date or screw at once anyway?
The only conclusions I come to are from what people "take the time" to type here. The art of conversation is important. Anyone disagree?
As you have probably noticed, there are a number of odd and redundent posts on this board and I don't mind helping to keep people honest, I'm not the only one who does that here. On other boards it's amazing how things can get out of control when people don't care whats getting posted.
Here, I'll post a smiley face so you don't think that I'm huffing and puffing: ; )
Bud/bro
if it's girls you're trying to impress how about asking a girl who's opinion you trust. word of caution: long hair isn't everyone's bag... in fact most people- both men and women- will tell you not to grow it. while long hair may indeed look good on you, i think your current length suits you quite well... try spiking it or something while it's still shorter.
Think it looks great! And about the "Awkward Stage?" I also happen to like it. It's fun! Always different. (Mine was about like yours about 3 months ago.) Have a blast and enjoy! Oh yes.............about all those who say they don't like. Sometimes I think they really do but just won't admit it. Probably jealous. Ha ha ha! Otherwise, why all the attention? People generally pay no attention to something that is of no interest to them and they could care-less about.
The "other" Justin. :-)
Wow, the length right now looks good too. Let's just hope mine grows out like that, I like the style. Post some followups once it grows out more (if you decide to)!