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Hm, I've tried grooming techniques, nothing seems to work. I end up with some big fro thing every time. Its more of some pre 70's type Beegees type hair, that wont go away. My friends agree that it is quite ugly for hair, and I agree. I don't want to spend hours in the mirror, but I also don't want to put chemicals in my hair. Any suggestions? I'll post a pic tomorrow when I get some batts for my cam.