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Ok, like all you guys say, everyone has to find out what works best for THEIR hair, and this is what I feel for mine.
Maybe it's just cause my hair is only 5 inches long, but I think that conditioners are over rated. They don't do much good for me at all. I imagine if my hair was as long as some of you guys, it would be more necessary, but at my length it just seems to make it worse.
I was reminiscing on all my best hair days recently, and I realized that on not one of them had I used a seperate conditioner from the shampoo. I had either used a good moisturizing shampoo or a shampoo and conditioner in 1.
I'm mostly saying this as a comment to other people in the so called "akward" stage- if you;re having trouble, if your hair isnt laying enough or is getting build up or is turning into a frizzball, why not try using a moisturizing shampoo or a 2-in-1. From my thick haired experience, I'm thinkin it may be much better.
Im gonna go grab some pert plus or something, I have gotten good results with that in the past
Conditioners are not enough to control your hair during the awkward stages.
Conditioners condition but do little to control. Conditioning
your hair can make it stronger, shinier and tangle free but that's
usually as far as they will go.
For the awkward stages you need MORE...things like gels or hair dressings...
Conditioners won't keep shorter hair 'in place' and will not make it lie flat.
I'm am almost ready to post my results about Garnier Fructis shampoo & conditioner...
I know that conditioners are not quite enough, but I find that my hair lies much better and feels better when I haven't used conditioner. That's why I urge those in the akward stage to try using a moistruizing shampoo or a 2-in-1.
On another note, I've used Fructis too, and am anxious to hear your results!
You are correct, of course, as YOU know your own hair best.
My hair needs the conditioner to prevent tangles, etc.
Plus I need a touch of gel to control those pesky flyaways!
This is only my first day with Garnier Fructis (I am using the ones made
for dry/damaged hair even though my hair is not damaged.
As of this posting, I am not ready to compare it with ViVE
since I have not had enough experience yet.
I was about to disagree with your 'over rated' comment but then I
remembered some of the claims put on the bottles. The makers of
conditioners put all kinds of assertions about their products but
the main reason I use them is because it makes my hair feel silky
smooth and tangle free.
I don't know if the stuff does protect my hair and I probably will
not know for some time but conditioner is cheap, I use very little
and I feel the immediate benefits are worth it.
Keep experimenting (and thanks for reporting the results!)
You are correct, the length is a factor. When your hair gets longer you will come to appreciate conditioners more. The hairs that you have now are not that old and don't need the help that conditioners provide. They also aren't able to tangle in ways that longer hair does...another thing that conditioners help with. People with very short hair don't even need to use conditioners because they keep cutting their hair and it doesn't have time to get aged and damaged.
I think that your expectations were a little high at this point when you were trying different products. Many of the guys recommending certain products as being good for long hair already have long hair themselves and have found them to be of considerable help. You will get there but you have to do the time and see what your hair does as it gets longer.
Also, your hair type, as you have guessed, can make a difference and may not react to products like other people's hair. This does not make the products over-rated, just not suited for your particular needs.
I do not recommend 2in1 products because I have tried them when I was in the first couple of years of growth and found them to be poor products to use, especially as my hair grew longer. You may find them to work ok with the length of hair/hair type that you have now but if you are shooting for longterm growth then they shouldn't be included in your longterm plan because the ends you have now will be much older ends in several years time...meaning that you want to take the best care of them now so they last longer.
2in1s do build-up because of their low quality and can make hair look over-conditioned or "frizz-out" due to the conditioners being washed out because of the shampoo that is mixed with it. Many of the guys experiencing problems in early stages of growth here seem to have very difficult hair types to grow long and may or may not get any satisfactory results with any products out there.
It doesn't sound like your hair type is nearly that bad but you will experience differences as you hair keeps increasing in length.
The key is not to get too excited or frustrated or make pronouncements about the way it's going to be because it just might not stay that way.
Hair Religion, you always have a reasoned, and reasonable response! THanks for clearly and politely presenting good information, as always.