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Hi i saw ur qestion about Sikhs and their hair on
http://the-light.com/mens/wwwboard.html
and i would be more than happy to explain to you i myself as a sikh have been growing my hair since birth and it comes down to my knees now. We are not allowed to cut any of our hair if we do so we might aswell cut all of it of because it is STRICTLY PROHIBITED to cut our hair this is a major rule of our religion that we must follow. All sikhs with a turban have thier hair tied up in a (JURA) english translation (BUN) on the top of our heads and then we tie our turban around the bun and i guess the up side to this is that if our hair does get damaged no one can see it beacuse it is all being covered by our turbans and another thing you said in one of your topics that sikhs have (extremely fine/breakable hair) when in fact our hair isnt like that at all it is quite strong and very very thick for example my little cousin started to grow his hair at the age of 5 and by the time he was 8 he had nice thick hair coming down to his waist and more qestions please feel free to ask thanks,
Rajan Singh
If you can respond by posting on the thread that is already open it will be less confusing.
I think that you completely missed what I was saying in my last post. I didn't say that Sikh's had fine hair, I was asking about specifics on the the rule/law that says that you cannot cut your hair. If you can re-read that post and provide some answers that would be appreciated. This subject of Sikhs has come up here several times before and we all already understand that you are not allowed to cut your hair, I just want to know why and to what degree these rules have to be followed...and if complete and needed information on hair has been provided to those who are required to follow this practice (or are you left out there to figure it out for yourself?).
What other thread. I recently trimmed the board. It's possible that thread was removed. I see no problem with using this thread.
By the way, several years ago I met a sikh at the post office. We spoke about hair, and he mentioned the rules against cutting hair. I pointed out that he trimmed his moustache. He said that trimming of a moustache is permitted to facilitate eating.
There are a couple of other threads that he is responding to by posting a new thread instead each time instead of continuing under the current thread. It kind of stretches out the topic and makes who he is responding to difficult to see.
The following from www.sikhs.org:
A progressive religion well ahead of its time when it was founded over 500 years ago, The Sikh religion today has a following of over 20 million people worldwide and is ranked as the worlds 5th largest religion. Sikhism preaches a message of devotion and remembrance of God at all times, truthful living, equality of mankind and denounces superstitions and blind rituals. Sikhism is open to all through the teachings of its 10 Gurus enshrined in the Sikh Holy Book and Living Guru, Sri Guru Granth Sahib.
Regarding hair, it says:
Kesh:
Long unshorn hair. A symbol of spirituality. The Kesh reminds a Khalsa to behave like the Guru's. It is a mark of dedication and group consciousness, showing a Khalsa's acceptance of God's will. Long hair have long been a common element of many spiritual prophets of various religions such as Jesus, Moses and Buddha.
According to this site, at baptism the one becoming Khalsa (completely dedicated sikh)is instructed not to remove one hair from his/her body. The above quotation seems to be the explanation of what unshorn hair means in sikhism.
Robert
PS While I am a Latin teacher, I also hold degrees in theology and an am ordained clergyman (though not functioning as one). I note, again, from this information on Sikhism that religion is very dependent on "group consciousness" in many, many forms. Essentially, in my words, the message is often: do what we say do, or you cannot be one of us (at best) or you will suffer some ill--like burning at the stake or going to hell (at worst). In American Christianity (fundamentalist brands) often men and boys are told that good Christian men wear short hair and claims of scriptural authority are made. This is group consciousness. The same, in the opposite, is apparently true, in Sikhism.
I offer this as no criticism of religion. Just pointing out that group consciousness, what I have called the tribe in other posts, is what is at play.
So says their own site (as does most every religion). It doesn't answer my questions or really say anything about the hair requirement and how then to care for it.
I suspect that that is all they get, a rule/law and nothing written along with that rule/law to help them in the effort to obey it.
I agree with you that a group consciousness is probably the driving force here. I guess what prompts me to ask the questions is that he has come here, outside his religion that requires his hair to be long, to ask for advice on how to care for his hair. Why wouldn't that info be available from the rule/law makers?
I believe the answer is staring right at you in the line you quoted above. These rules were written such a long time ago, near the Stone Age technology, and it is a possibility that not one person has updated these rules since then.
You must have awesome hair.
Are you allowed to go out without your hair covered?
Also, what about your beard and moustache?
Steve
sir, canI have a pictureof your hair . my email is elsa_122@rediffmail.com
I like the idea of growing hair without ever cutting it, I guess this was a fundamental dream of me. So everything in reality may have it's equivalent in feelings somewhere. But on the other site I ever was in conflict with social requests, and especially with religion. So as much as I like very long hair this couldn't be a way for me.
wolfgang