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Sup all, Now we've all seen those makeover shows where the first thing they wanna do is cut hair(on women as well as men), now this always used to bug me, but have you noticed how so many of the the women who cut hair(for a living) tend to wear it long? But why? Shouldnt they follow their own advice? On these shows they always say "oh short hair makes you look younger" and "you need a change?" "you need layers" and change the color. But why? Hair dying drys and damages hair, layers are just something few people can maintain and the majority of people know the longer the hair the younger you look since as people get older they tend to cut their hair shorter and shorter. But just the other day it finally hit me(I know it took me a while) the reason they do this is because thats their job! They know as well as anyone the damage they can do to hair, they know long hair gives a younger look, and in most cases it gives a slimmer look, BUT if they told people the truth then they wouldnt get any clients and in turn wouldnt be able to eat. So like car salesmen they tell you bold face lies to get you to buy their product(or in this case service) because they want your money, not because they want to make you look better.
I may be wrong but this is just my theory based on what Ive seen over the years, and to me at least this makes perfect sense.
So I've now come to realize theyre not the enemy, its just their job to make you believe theyre on your side, kinda like insurance salesmen.
Does this make sense to anyone out there?
I agree.
Ever watch "Queer Eye"? The first comment on every show is "Oh gosh, we have to do something with that awful hair".
As for so-called hair professionals...yep, it's their job to cut, color, style, etc. The more they do, the more they make.
I agree with everything you said.
"...As for so-called hair professionals...yep, it's their job to cut, color, style, etc. The more they do, the more they make..."
BUT, it is only in giving the client EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT that keeps them coming back and makes a living for us professionals. Case in point: all the contributors to this board (like yourself) who will never return to a professional because they did NOT get exactly what they asked for, did NOT get what they were wanting/expecting.
Incidentally, I consider myself/my men's grooming resource center an exception to your rule just because many of our image makeovers recommend longer hair for our clients--and they follow our advice. Our greatest contribution to their growing long hair is minimizing the frustration of the "awkward" phase. Just one instance: a guy who worked on the tarmac at Logan International Airport/Boston wanted hair long enough for a ponytail but the wind raised havoc with his awkward stage. When we showed him what to do until all his hair was long enough to be caught in the hairband, NINE of his male coworkers decided to grow their own ponytails. It had been that awkward stage that had discouraged them from persevering in the past. (We professionals aren't ALWAYS the bad guy.)
Anyone who can get people throught that Awkward Phase is
definitely on that 'Good Guys' list!
ok, heres the thing, I never said they were evil, just I used to think they were the enemy, but not anymore cuz I understand why they do it. secondly most of the time they DONT give the person what they want, the people come back because the dealer talks them into what they(the dealer) want you to buy, the person believes them and so they think they did a good job and return to them. So many times this is the case, and if there are hair dressers who only do what you want then more power to them, but most wont do that. In fact just seconds ago on ambush makeover I think it was the lady they were making over said "you know when I first came in here I did NOT want to color my hair, but it turned out alright I guess" and this is typicallly what they all do.
Those of us who now refuse to go to a salon or whatever, dont decide this because we happened to go to a bad one, its just that we already have a set plan and do not want to even slightly change it. they do there usual changing(as they always do), and afterwards try to convince you it looks good, of course since we already knew what we wanted, we know they ruined it, we just refuse to buy into their lies, so in turn they become the enemy, but when we finally realize whats been going on we can just say ok forget it, you do your thing and Ill do mine. theyre just doing thier job. That is all.
My last hair stylist had strong opinions of her own and
usually tired to persuade me to HER way of seeing things.
For the longest time, I tolerated her...until one day I asked
for a braid and she ACTUALLY became visibly UPSET with me!
Needless to say, I did not get that braid done by her.
Who wants to have their hair braided by grudging fingers anyway?
She should have just given me what I WANTED because she
would have been paid the same amount anyway.
Finally decided to leavr her when I figured out she really
did NOT LIKE LONG HAIR on MEN!!!
Good move, man!
This is one area where is pays to be picky.
When I was a kid I used to like letting it grow as much as possible between cuts (not very long). The lady who cut it was from Vietnam and would always really take it down. Probably would have buzzed it if I let her. Started letting it go more when I finally got away from her.
Now it's a matter of taking time to talk to a stylist BEFORE they start working to see if they understand where you are coming from.
I was getting so frustrated with the "Queer Eye" guys immediately lobbing off the man of every longhair guy on the show. Then last night they actually complimented the Olympic skater on his long hair and didn't touch it. Gave me a bit of renewed hope for the show. :-)
Cheers,
Jeremy
Have you ever seen "Queer eye for the straight guy" the fab 5 just made over an olympic skater with long hair which they kept, not everyone is as hair-cut happy as you think
Most likely because he told them ahead of time he refused to cut it. Dont always believe everything you see(or hear). Thats the lesson here.
Of course there are many shows where the counsultants have no idea what the bloody hell they're talking about
I wonder if the fumes from the hair-care products, especially the hair dyes, get them .....intoxicated.
As usual, I think the biggest part of the makeover conspiracy is the viewers keep watching the makeover shows. Viewers may complain all they want, hate the show, boycott one, buy more of another, or do whatever but they still keep watching television. The producers of the shows have the viewers exactly where they want them--the viewers are the product being sold.
I agree that hair care professionals (not all of them) tend to cut hair shorter than most people would like. Short hair usually "requires" more frequent visits to the hair care professional, especially when the short hair starts falling into the eyes (can't be tied back) or becomes curled outward.
Wow
you look younger? most don't
and in most cases it gives a slimmer look,
If your fat ,,,,,, no amount of hair is going to help
BUT if they told people the truth then they wouldnt get any clients and in turn wouldnt be able to eat. So like car salesmen they tell you bold face lies to get you to buy their product(or in this case service) because they want your money, not because they want to make you look better.
Conspiricy.......come on. most long hairs look like they need help, not all but more then not
Trev
Fine you wanna buy into thier lies go right ahead. geez some people just cant be helped.