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people always call me gay because of my hair, but i dont think there are that many gay people with long hair are there, i would say most of them have short hair ??
Oh well just wondered.
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Don't Listen to what people like that say. Some people are unfamiliar with guys with long hair. I get quite some insults too. Some are good though like calling me Jesus. It is your style that seperates you from other individuals. I have seen a couple of guys on the net with long hair who are gay, but it is very rare. I have long hair. It doesn't make me gay. It could also be from your hair color. People of all Hair colors get teased sometimes. If you like your Hair it shouldn't matter what people say about it. I have been called alot of names in my long hair run, but you don't see me cutting it because of what somebody has to say. Yes there are alot of gays in this world, and personaly I don't have a problem with gay people. That is what seperates them from another individual, it is there style and beliefs. Next time somebody calls you gay because of your hair length, tell them something like this "Yes, I am happy, because I have long hair which seperates me from you." Or you can just ignore that person. Obviously they don't have anything good to say.
or you can say
"aslong as im not you buddy"
might not work but i would say it.
Next time somebody calls you gay because of your hair length, tell them something like this "Yes, I am happy, because I have long hair which seperates me from you." Or you can just ignore that person. Obviously they don't have anything good to say.
Or, you could say, "From what I can tell from TV and the Internet, gay people usually have short hair... like yours"
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Insane Dwayne: lol that is a good one to use too lol, but I was trying to use one that doesn't insult the other person. Usually when you do this, a person will get mad and backfire causing a needless argument. It is still very funny though :)
That is why the best tack with rude people is often to just ignore them. Ignoring someone is NOT a cop-out, nor is it a response of weakness. When done deliberately, it is about the strongest put-down you can issue. It also leaves them nothing to argue about since you didn't say anything back.
Bravo! How true.
As the old saying goes: "To argue with a fool makes two fools."
Very much like a quote from Obi Wan Kenobi in Star Wars:
"Who's the more foolish, the fool? Or the fool that follows him?"
Probably the most philosophical comment in the film.
On a similar not, how about "The only way to win an arguement is to avoid one"......a thought that was also expressed in the movie Wargames by Joshua the computer, on the game Global Thermonuclear War, "Interesting game, it appears that the only winning move is not to play"
Or:
Never argue with fools, they will drag you down to their level and there they will win since they have more experience.
That's a good comeback and usually shuts the other person up. But I don't think that the percentages of Gay Men with long hair differ much from the percentages of Straight Men with long hair. Its just that there are fewer Gay Men than Straight Men so a Gay guy with long hair is even more uncommon.
Though it has to said the "stereotypical" gay guy is a sharp dresser, well groomed with short well styled hair (Think "Queer Eye"). This is in stark contrast to your average longhair, who is more casual laid back and less concerned with his appearance. The Stereotype is of course false because Gay Men like Straight Men come in all shapes and sizes, but nevertheless feel free to use other people's misconceptions to your advantage when defending your personal choices from bigotry.
Which is why it's included in the RAQ:
My hair reaches to my belt, & I've never been asked that question! In my surroundings, shaved heads are much more of a gay 'signature'.
I have been taken for a woman - from the back.
That is a silly bigoted statement that long hair means you must be gay. You are correct predominately gay men have very short hair. It is no different than most people think transsexuals are gay also, yet less than 15% are.
It's all how you feel within and care less what "society" thinks and expects.
Dawn
Just for a matter of interest and so I don't put my foot in it, may I ask a question?
Is a Transexual who is born male yet lives as a female, regarded as Gay if he/she likes Women? Or Men?
People tend to confuse gender identity and sexual orientation.
Gender identity is how you see yourself - is your image of yourself male or female? This identity is really a separate entity from the body, that is, the genitalia. For the greatest majority of humans, the gender identity is in synch with the sex of the body.
Sexual orientation has to do with what are you attracted to. If you are attracted to the sex that is the opposite to your gender identity, then you are heterosexual (straight).
So in answer to your question. A transexual that is born male (has male genetalia) but lives as a female (has a gender identity of female) would be "straight" if their sexual orientation attracted them to men, and lesbian if their sexual orientation attracted them to women. (Think of this last scenario as a lesbian trapped in a man's body)
Does that help?
I wanted to add another point about sexual orientation. Society tends to use words like "gay" and "straight" which imply that sexual orientation is an either/or situation. In reality, sexual orientation is a continuum.
By nature, most people (one study estimated this to be 8% of the population) are exclusively one way or the other. That makes the remaining 92% (remember, by nature) a certain about "gay" and a certain amount "straight" - with varying degrees one way or the other, on an individual-by-individual basis.
I like to compare it to ice cream. I like vanilla ice cream as well as chocolate. But if I have a choice, I'd go for chocolate. The "majority of my orientation" is for chocolate, but given the circumstances, I'd be fine with vanilla. But what if society said that people could not like both? What if you had to declare you prefer one over the other? What if society also bombarded you with messages that only vanilla is "normal"? So now you'd have to not only choose one specific flavor, but you'd have to decide if you wanted to go with society, or against it.
Oh I agree William - Sexual Orientation isn't as black and white as people may think. Most people will at some point in their lives experience some level of attraction to a member of the same sex, normally in "straight" people the feeling is not enough to trigger a strong response, just enough to confuse the hell of us for a while whilst we battle with societies definitions of what is the "right" way to be.
I think it's a definition of the terms used:
Gender identity is how one sees themself, i.e. male, female, transgender, hermaphrodite, neuter, etc..
Sexual orientation is how someone goes about living their sex life, i.e. heterosexual, gay, bisexual, virgin, prostitute, evangelical Christian, etc.
Sexual preference is what the person is sexually attracted to, what turns them on, usually defined as the ob ject of their sexual attraction, i.e. heterophile, homophile, etc.
I think that is an example where sexual preference, (what a person likes) and sexual orientation (what a person chooses) can be two different things. Probably a lot of people hav a bisexual preference, but choose to be gay or heterosexual because most people prefer to be monogamus and it would be too confusing to play two games in town.
Actually Yes - to be honest this was the way I percieved it myself, the person's Gender Identity defines their sense of self. But the way Dawn talked about it sounded as if she was implying the reverse.
Maybe she did this to avoid confusing closed minds, but it confused me a little as a result.
Wasn't my intention at all I assure you. Perhaps I attempted to simplyfy it not realizing how astute many of this board are and for that I apologize.
Dawn
...wish I was a lesbian.
Not only is it on target im surprised just how many people today seem to be versed in genderdysphoria.
Nicely stated as well.
Dawn
That may be a definition that some transgenders use, but the majority define "gay" and "straight" in comparison to biology. Not understanding this can get one killed. The jury has been out for two weeks now in the Araujo case wrestling with this very question. After visiting the link, enter "araujo" in the search block there to read much more.
Good question I am sure there is a label for them that do, but I am one that thinks labels are for soup.
Some feel they are gay yes and those that prefer females refer to themselvs as "transbians"
Dawn
Well, transsexuals are either gay "before" or gay "after", unless they change what sex they are attracted to at the same time they change their sex. They generally don't.
That's why I personally shy away from the terms "gay" and "straight". They attempt to define one variable in terms of another, always a shaky proposition, but especially so when the variable in the definition is itself more shaky than the variable defined. "Gay" and "straight" do not work well as terms for transgenders, for the intersexed, nor for bisexuals.
If someone asks my sexual orientation, I just put down "male". That is what I am attracted to. That answer will work for everybody.
Besides, not only does "gay" have other meanings, but "straight" to an old hippie definitely means something else. [grin]
Bill
Well said Bill
Might as well stop wondering. You'll never know.
As for "these" people............."Brainless Wits?"
I was actually just debating with my mother over this topic, If you do think about it, the majority of gay's do have short hair, but who cares man, the people that call you "gay" simply becouse you ahve long hair are not the people you want to hang around anyway..... Its kind of like how everyone is childish now, calling people "fags" for no reason...... Like when you go to a school and a guy goes "Oh i dont like him, he is a fag" meanwhile the guy has a girlfriend, or when someone says someone is stupid, they call him "gay"....Which makes no sence to me at all........
But i mean be proud of what you are, and if your happy with your hair long, then screw everyone else, becouse in the end, having long hair is not ment to impress anyone, just make you feel acomplished about what you have done, so screw what everyone else thinks
