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I haven't been using 'cones much lately, but I find that my hair is starting to feel a little built up. Could this be from another ingredient, or could it be from the days I wash with just conditioner and no shampoo?
Protein can build up, too.
Protein? What ingredients cause this?
Read the ingredients list. There will be something like hydrolyzed silk protein, hydrolyzed wheat protein, etc. Lots of conditioners have them.
...conditioners can cause major build up...especially
when you do not shampoo & just use the conditioner.
I do not know why some are so concerned with silicone build up. In
my experience, it is one of the easiest 'build ups' to get rid of.
Just ONE shampooing, and my hair is clean & clear with no build up.
Build up is easy to detect: your hair feels thick and unmanageable.
It can even feel like straw, believe it or not.
When build up is removed, your hair feels 'thin' sleek, smooth & silky.
And that's exactly the way my hair feels right now.
Hey Luckskind... I think I have an idea what my problem is. Well I've been using silicone free shampoo and conditioner and my hair still needs a little work as of late...
I think that maybe my hair works for 'cones, but not when they are also included in the shampoo that's supposed to wash them out. Perhaps a silicone containing conditioner would be okay, as long as the 'cones aren't in the shampoo?
What do you think of that logic?
I think that's exactly the logic Luckskind is working with. But my experience a Silicone build-up is not so easy to remove, the same brand shampoo rarely removes the build-up of its 'sister' conditioner.
In my experience, particularly with Cone filled Redken Smooth Down, which worked wonders for about 3 months, then its started to loose its effect. Everytime I used a clarrifier my hair reverted right back its dull state within a single wash/condition.
I guess it can depend on how often you shampoo/condition which for me is a question of washing 3 times a week and conditioning practically everytime I wet my hair (otherwise I'm left with hellish tangles.)
I guess the kind of build-up my routine would cause would be much greater than the build-up Luckskind's would do.
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That's how Garnier Fructis was for me: it worked really excellent for several months, and then it just stopped.
Just out of curiosity, how many 'cones and which are they, that are used in Redken Smooth Down?
I don't have the bottle to hand but atleast 3 different silicone products are included in the Smooth Down Conditioner.
Garnier Fructis is particularly full of ingredients that can cause abuild-up, not just cones but also protiens, and that's just the shampoo, I haven't even cast my eyes on the conditioner.
The trick to avoiding build-up is to avoid over conditioning. Something that is much easier said than done.
I think that the harsher the shampoo you use before applying a -cone conditioner, the more your hair will be stripped, and the more deeply and firmly the -cones will attach to your hair. But the shampoos that are intended to remove the -cone residue need to be harsh. So it's a vicious cycle. Eventually, the shampoo which took the residue off no longer will.
I've used Pantene regularly, and I've never had any problem. Two things I've done are:
1. Apply it after a lighter conditioner. This means it takes almost none to coat the hair, and it only absorbs a little;
2. Clarify regularly, either by rinsing my dry hair with 1/2 cup vinegar mixed in 1 quart of water before washing, or by applying a blend of light oil, including essential oil of any citrus (coconut and macadamia, sweet almond, walnut, etc as the carrier oils), covering with a shower cap, and heating for a few minutes before washing. This second one should remove any residue built up in your hair.
Thanks for the reply, one question...
Do you mean to apply the shampoo after a light conditioner? SO youd use a light conditioner, then shampoo, then regular conditioner?
No, apply the conditioner which contains -cones after a lighter conditioner. Presuming you have shampooed your hair first, you would then apply a cheap, light conditioner before applying one which contains -cones.
I don't recommend using a shampoo which contains -cones, that would be a complete waste of money.
could someone please tell me what are 'cones?
Silicones. I found the following article very helpful:
http://naturallycurly2.com/curlscene/entry.php?id=341&entrytype=articles
JE
ok,thanks
